[News] Flames hire Bill Peters as the franchise's 19th head coach

[oldschoolcalgary]

well... this thread really has gone to hell.

Not really a fan of Peters, but who knows? Maybe he'll be able to have it work in Calgary...

If Peters is confirmed, Flames fans don't have a lot of options until the season actually starts:

1) Give the man a chance to see what he can do
2) Give up their season tickets and stop posting on CP
3) Continue to post and be negative, making threads completely unreadable.

Now when the games start being played, one can actually start drawing some conclusions, based on results not conjecture...however, i think you need at least 50-75% of the season in order to have a reasonable sample size in order to judge how he is doing.

BT's job will be dependent on this hire imo... so let's all hope he's made a wise choice.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

It’s kinda scary that I can’t tell if you’re joking because this is such a ridiculous statement, it should be abundantly obvious.

Definitely tongue in cheek. If you use the Peters is Gully 2.0 metric, makes all the sense in the world to some.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

So, on 20 April, before the 2018 Stanley Cup has been awarded, before the Flames next head coach has been announced, before he has hired a single assistant, before the GM has made a single adjustment to the roster you are already making projections of a dire outcome for next season.

Is this not just a little bit short-sighted?

Being a fan of one of the most spectacularly incompetent franchises in the NHL over the last three decades brings some baggage with it. I can't fault people for being frustrated/critical. We just watched one of the biggest failures in franchise history, have no draft picks, and have (potentially) hired a coach who coaches a similar brand of hockey to his predecessor - which a good portion of us are sick of due to poor results, and poor entertainment value.

Perhaps the negativity is over the top, but this organization has not had a good run of it in recent years. It's been disaster (arena) after disaster (swept in '16/'17 playoffs) after disaster (missed the playoffs in '17/'18). We all look to the summer as a time to refresh our fandom, get amped back up as fans and hope for a brighter future...

...then we get to read about how the Hurricanes suffered from a near identical flop of a season, and their head coach is going to be our new head coach? It's an early, and unwanted challenge to our annual fandom cycle .

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by saXon

No it's more of a "I'm tired of seeing my favorite team, whom I've dumped countless hours and dollars into, continually spiral on a steady decline into mediocrity."

At least that's what I got out of it.

Decline into mediocrity?
This franchise has been mediocre, at best, for 25+ years.
Are Treliving and Peters the men to finally raise them above that?
We'll see.
I don't pretend to know better than Treliving. I expect no one else here does either.

[Mike F]

Have only read the thread in spurts, but put me in the camp of those thoroughly unimpressed with this (apparent) signing

Now, I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion that Peters will be a failure, but there's also little to make me think that he's likely to be successful beyond throwing blind trust in Treliving. And that's not something I'm willing to do.

I (like many people) have spent much of the last two seasons first expressing dissatisfaction with the Flames performance under Gulutzan, then questioning Gulutzan's coaching generally, and finally calling for his firing. It's been two seasons of feeling that the potential of the team was being wasted.

So Treliving finally gives GG his pink-slip, and we're looking at a pool of potential coaches with some impressive resumes of success in the NHL; guys who have proven tat they can lead a team into the playoffs consistently, and win when they get there. Yet, from that deep pool, Treliving seems to have reeled in another guy who, on paper, looks a lot like Gulutzan: a guy with some success at other levels, but ZERO success at the NHL level.

A lot of posters who have called out the negative comments have said something along the lines of: "Look at the rosters in Carolina. No wonder he hasn't had success. Be patient." And that's fair to some extent. . . . BUT. . . .

Every expert looked at the team put together in Vegas and predicted struggles, yet the team has excelled like no other expansion team. And that is in no small part due to the way Gallant has coached them. He instilled a system that took advantage of his players strength, and got them to buy in to the point where they individually and collectively elevated their play beyond anything they'd done before. And that was something Gallant had done in Florida: He took over a team that had put up 66 points, and led them to seasons of 91 and 103 points.

What does that have to do with Peters? IMO, you may be willing to give him a pass based on having a crappy roster. But if you're going to bypass some proven coaches to hire him, I would at least like to see some evidence that he got a bad roster to elevate their play to some degree. Some evidence that they may not have been good, but they were better that they would have been without him. And I don't see it. In the season before he took over in Carolina, the team put up 83 points. The next few season, under Peters they put up 71 and 86 points. Basically, zero elevation.

Finally, when I tune into Elliotte Friedman's radio interview on the subject, I hear nothing about Peters being a good coach, just a defense of the hiring on the grounds that Treliving is familiar with him, he's Treliving's pick, and you have to let a GM hire his guy. So zero confidence added there.

I'm not despondent. I'm not saying it's a foregone conclusion that Peters will be a failure. But I see no objective evidence that would lead me to conclude that he's likely to be a success, which I would have had with a number of other guys that could have been hired instead.

[FBI]

Not excited about this hire. Hope to be proven wrong.

[Stay Golden]

Does Peters and Treliving have a past connection?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Does Peters and Treliving have a past connection?

World championships. I think.

[GoJetsGo]

Not thrilled if this is true but I'll reserve judgement until we see how it shakes out in actuality. Tre definitely sticking his neck out on this one. If it's another bad call like Gully was, they will likely walk the plank together. I think he's made enough good moves to give him some leeway hoping this works out like he thinks it will.

The negativity is just putrid though. So many chicken littles making sickening comments about 'not watching anymore' etc. Hopefully those who are that fed up and feel that way will hit the log out button and be done with it. If you're in the camp that's so fed up you can't take it anymore, find another hobby. If you truly don't care anymore, why come to an online message board and rant at strangers over and over about how little you care. Move on, and find a more positive outlet. This is shaping up to be a sickening summer on here with the same people saying the same tired negative crap over and over.

At the end of the day it's just a game.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Does Peters and Treliving have a past connection?

Treliving and George McPhee were co-GMs of Canada's entry at the 2016 Word Championships. Peters was their coach and the team won gold.

[tvp2003]

So this is actually happening? Alrighty then:

[browna]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Treliving and George McPhee were co-GMs of Canada's entry at the 2016 Word Championships. Peters was their coach and the team won gold.

Just acquire McDavid and the trifecta from that team is complete.

[nik-]

Again, I hope this works out

Pretty disappointed in Mr. "Process". What a load of ####. So focused on one coach he apparently wouldn't even fire a known poor one unless he was available?

Jesus. That is a pretty bad look. He better hope to hell next year is good.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Confusing move. Treliving has definitely pushed all in with this hire. If Peters can't get the team to the post-season in 2018-19 then Treliving has pretty much ended his tenure with the Flames. I have to question his thinking. In eleven years as a head coach, at all levels, Peters has managed to get his team into the post season only four times, and out of the first round, only once. Not exactly a history of success. Have to wonder what he sees in this guy, other than numbers that will keep the spreadsheet warriors happy. Definitely a head scratcher.

[Stay Golden]

This is a tough one to call Peters worked for a goofy owner and the GM was under a budget restraint so Peters was not able to work with much.
What worries me is I have never liked the idea of hiring a coach from a crap team.
I thought Treliving would have been wiser to see who emerged as another better candidate after the first round is played. There usually is 1 or 2 hatchet jobs by impatient owners losing in the first round.

[Canada 02]

How is Peter's PP and PK?

[868904]

Not a fan of the pick but starting Monday he has my support, and the World Championships just became a lot more interesting to me.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

How is Peter's PP and PK?

As long as it's not the BROUWERPLAY, we'll be fine.

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

How is Peter's PP and PK?

Well for pk canes only average 2 pims a game so I guess really good? Best way to have a good pk is not take a penalty

[woob]

So everyone knows this is ownership driving down performance, to increase fan dissatisfaction, to lower profits and season ticket renewals, to bolster their case to move the team, right? Right?