[News] Flames hire Bill Peters as the franchise's 19th head coach

[sun]

So does Peters have a PhD in Fancy Stats or what?

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by nik-

If the Flames don't win at least a round next year I predict CP tears itself apart tossing us all into the frozen, lifeless void of space.

The last sound we'll hear, as we hurtle into the blackness towards our imminent deaths will be

"Cooooorrrrrrrrrssssssiiiiiiiiii."

You won't hear a thing in space

[nik-]

Originally Posted by the2bears

You won't hear a thing in space

whatever Neil deGrasse Tyson

Are you a doctor of space?!?!?!?!?

[The Fonz]

That guy still offering chill pill suppositories? I'll take 2.

[Jeff Lebowski]

If Treliving's calculus was he wanted to go with they guy he knows - that is not a good sign. What kind of team does Treliving want? Is it, win games 2-1, big heavy slow - the style that won before: Ducks, Kings

or

Is it the NHL today, speed, skill, huge positive goal differential. PITT, VGK, NSH etc.
If this in fact is his thinking (familiarity) then what the hell has happened to Treliving?

I'm doing what I didn't want to do and conjecturing without anything being official or any body of work to look at but... please follow the speed, skill blueprint. Get a coach that utilizes this (even if it is Peters).

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Was just listening to a bit of Kerr's show from yesterday, and it sounds like the Rangers are looking at a couple of coaches from the NCAA that they're currently high on. So I guess we're not the only team looking to roll the dice on an unproven coach.

Yes. Jim Montgomery

I posted an article on him, somewhere hundreds or thousands of posts ago.

He himself has a Process. Assumed Tre would have taken note.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by sun

So does Peters have a PhD in Fancy Stats or what?

That degree is a BS

[Nsd1]

Me: hmm, wonder if there's any new news about this Bill Peters thing

*reads last few pages*

Me:

[VladtheImpaler]

You are all crazy. I am going to Toronto. Hope Fischy13 tells me what's what by the time I login again.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by カナダ人です

Check out that coaching resume.



Doesn't exactly blow you away.
(And is nothing compared to Vigneault's.)

Looks a lot like Trotz' first 4 years. Also AV's years 2-4. Also Torts' first 3 years.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Looks a lot like Trotz' first 4 years. Also AV's years 2-4. Also Torts' first 3 years.

Also Dallas Eakins first and only 2 years

Not every coach gets the rope to build a long career and turn it around.

Failure is not a great predictor of success

[1Nite]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Looks a lot like Trotz' first 4 years. Also AV's years 2-4. Also Torts' first 3 years.

Well you can say the guy is pretty consistent.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Listening to Bill Waters on the radio, he says the way Peters and GG deal with players is night and day. GG was a players coach. Peters ain’t. Some players are in for a shock.

Well that's a relief at least. Amongst his other coaching faults, I always thought GG was way too soft on the team. In general, yes, but especially so with the whipping boys on the 4th line. Absolutely butter soft. I believe even Versteeg said something about how lucky the boys should consider themselves because they get away with so much under GG that wouldn't fly with other coaches around the league.

One of Darryl's most appreciated traits from his former players was that he was willing to rip on everyone from the superstar to the 4th line grinder. It increases accountability across the lineup. I am hoping Peters is the same in that regard.

I'll add on one of Tort's stories - when Fedotenko first joined the team, it was a little awkward between the players when he'd get away with playing bad and not getting yelled at, instead having a private meeting with Torts instead (think language barrier may have been an issue). Then, the first time he screamed at Ruslan in front of the entire team in the locker room, everyone was like "Woah, alright, so THAT'S what's going on behind those closed doors. Okay." and bonded a lot better as a team afterwards.

[Itse]

The thread going off the rails is my favorite part. Seriously, gave me a good chuckle. Irrational venting helps frustration.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Also Dallas Eakins first and only 2 years

Not every coach gets the rope to build a long career and turn it around.

Failure is not a great predictor of success

Nope, but let's not just point to the record and declare defeat. Especially then saying that AV's looks different - it didn't at the same career point.

I'm not big on Peters. But his record isn't a reason aside from my previously stated opinion that certain Flames might need to know that the coach is a bigger name than they are.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Also Dallas Eakins first and only 2 years

Hahahaha!

Not even close.

[Geeoff]

I like how everyone has a strong opinion of a guy that coaches a team that none of us gave a single #### about. Personally, the only Canes games I've ever watched were the ones they played against the Flames and the time they beat the Oilers in the finals. The Canes have a pretty bad rebuilding roster, so Peters' record also doesn't mean much to me.

Basically, I cannot properly judge this hiring, if this is the direction they go.

[dino7c]

You need a good roster to win in the NHL.... something he hasn't had yet

[EVERLAST]

Quick recap......to see if I've grasped everything.

Bill Peter's could end up being our coach
Bill Peter's is just GG v.02
People are mad at Bill Peter's
People are supportive of Peter's
We will only win 35 games in the next 2 years.
We will lose out on the lottery in the next 2 years.
Cali Flames Fan is NOT a Dr.....he's a chiropractor.
Doctors are good chiropractors are bad.
If Glen was bad Bill is worse.
Someone's right and someone's wrong
Thread is crazy
Someone is offended
Brad Treliving is nuts
Brad Treliving is only hiring Bill Peter's because it matches BP.

Am I missing something.?

[GioforPM]

Can we cross-reference all the "anyone would be better than GG" posts with all the "Oh noes Peters is worse than GG" posts?