2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Brick]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Right.

That will really help the defensively weak team.

The Flames have Valimaki coming up as well as other younger defensive options. Mark Giordano will be 35 this year and would fetch a good return still.
This team needs to keep getting bigger, faster, and younger. They need to play more in the offensive zone. Speed is the name of the game. Time to move out older players and make changes to the core that has failed in so many ways.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Fox
Jankowski
Bennett

for

ROR
2nd

If BT pulled that deal I would literally start a Fire Brad Treliving club. That deal will look great when in 3-4 years those guys are hoisting a Cup in Buffalo.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I cant do another full season of both Brouwerplay and "lets try Troy on the first line for 10-15 games" because he's a big body.

God help us if he's not bought out.

So tired of this.
I don't know if Brouwer played 1 minute at even strength on the 1st line last season.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

1. No. I don't need an expert to validate my opinion. If they trade for ROR it will be right or wrong, we'll see.
2. OK, I did not know that.
3. Arguably ROR would slot in behind Backlund if you are ranking on offense. While I love Ferland, if he is still 1RW starting next season then we will have already failed to address the need for more goals.



Interesting, if as you say a younger Yelle gets this team the offense it needs I will happily come back here and say you were right.

And you are entitled to your opinion that I am I'll informed. Doesn't bother me at all.

I talk to you guys here the same way I would if we were having a beer discussing hockey. My circle obviously has way thicker skin than some of the crowd here.

Agree to disagree I suppose. A C is far more valuable than a winger. If it comes down to Matt Hoffman or RoR, for example, I'm going RoR every day of the week. And I'm fairly confident most experts would agree with that approach.

[Harry Lime]

Calgary is not good enough team, as it stands, to be trading away 2nd and 3rd year NHLers and high end prospects.

Was there any conclusion made on whether Backlunds NTC kicks in before or after July 1st?

[bax]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If BT pulled that deal I would literally start a Fire Brad Treliving club. That deal will look great when in 3-4 years those guys are hoisting a Cup in Buffalo.

I think that is some serious hyperbole. Jankowski and Bennett formed two thirds of a below average third line last year. There is still potential, but their futures are far from certain.

Fox is still an unknown. I think best case scenario he becomes a Torey Krug like player (not a knock- Krug is awesome). Far cry from bringing home a Stanley Cup though.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If BT pulled that deal I would literally start a Fire Brad Treliving club. That deal will look great when in 3-4 years those guys are hoisting a Cup in Buffalo.

On the other hand, it has the merit of being a deal the Sabres may actually accept.

But let's continue with fantasy trades that the other team has 0% chance of agreeing to, where we get something really good back in exchange for players nobody really cares about.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by mcjmcj

Jankowski is part of the solution, give your head a shake. A 6'5'' center that plays with no edge and no physicality on a team that is soft and easy to play against.

I'm going to disagree on this. Jankowski is no banger but he definitely has a gritty side to him. I saw him playing with an edge and I saw him in a lot of battles this year. I saw him get in guys' faces and I didn't see him back down like some other players on this year's squad.

Maybe he's not Getzlaf but he's not going to get pushed around. Plus, as he matures, I think he'll get stronger and more intimidating.

[Kipper_3434]

Fantasy trade with buffalo

Backlund, Brodie, ferland for ROR, Okposso, reinhart, and maybe Scandella.

I can't tell who wins that trade so maybe it's realistic. Flames get better players but more cap hit. Maybe buffalo retains. I'm bored. Would also add Dougie to get Ristolainen.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Fantasy trade with buffalo

Backlund, Brodie, ferland for ROR, Okposso, reinhart, and maybe Scandella.

I can't tell who wins that trade so maybe it's realistic. Flames get better players but more cap hit. Maybe buffalo retains. I'm bored. Would also add Dougie to get Ristolainen.

has to be done.

[atb]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

I'm going to disagree on this. Jankowski is no banger but he definitely has a gritty side to him. I saw him playing with an edge and I saw him in a lot of battles this year. I saw him get in guys' faces and I didn't see him back down like some other players on this year's squad.

Maybe he's not Getzlaf but he's not going to get pushed around. Plus, as he matures, I think he'll get stronger and more intimidating.

Saw this as well. He was involved in a number of scrums throughout the year, I think that part of his game will only improve as he matures.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Calgary is not good enough team, as it stands, to be trading away 2nd and 3rd year NHLers and high end prospects.

Was there any conclusion made on whether Backlunds NTC kicks in before or after July 1st?

Certainly a debatable point, but judging the organization's actions over the past year, the message is clear. Win. Ownership & hockey ops wants to compete now. Not saying I agree with it, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least for the Flames to trade a young roster player/prospect or two for an impact player that will help them over the next 3 years or so.

[SportsJunky]

I'd still like to see a move made for Nylander in Toronto. Young, talented, right-handed center born in Calgary when his old man was on the Flames. Would it take Hamilton?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

I'd still like to see a move made for Nylander in Toronto. Young, talented, right-handed center born in Calgary when his old man was on the Flames. Would it take Hamilton?

More like would it take Nylander+. Marner is a better player and would be more ballpark for Hamilton and even at that Hamilton probably has more value.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Brick

The Flames have Valimaki coming up as well as other younger defensive options. Mark Giordano will be 35 this year and would fetch a good return still.
This team needs to keep getting bigger, faster, and younger. They need to play more in the offensive zone. Speed is the name of the game. Time to move out older players and make changes to the core that has failed in so many ways.

Trading Gio sets the team back no doubt he is clearly by far our best Dman. When Brodie or Hamilton are paired with him they are the best pie in the game. When Brodie or Hamilton are paired with others they are good skating, offensive Dmen, thst make boneheaded defensive plays.

Gio is also one of the players that gives a crap on this team.

I don’t disagree that trading him could be an option depending on the return but I also think moving Gio will result in a big step back for the team at least next year.

I assume the Flames trade Gio to get younger player(s) which obviously would be worse players (next 1+ season)

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

More like would it take Nylander+. Marner is a better player and would be more ballpark for Hamilton and even at that Hamilton probably has more value.

I know its been said, and I'm not saying I disagree but what exactly is your justification on this? I'm honestly curious.

Traditionally defenseman always cost more (as we know) but in this case Nylander is probably equal to the value of what Taylor Hall got straight across for Larson. He's a franchise winger for Toronto at this point one could argue.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

More like would it take Nylander+. Marner is a better player and would be more ballpark for Hamilton and even at that Hamilton probably has more value.

I think the Leafs would entertain trading Nylander long before they consider moving Marner.

Nylander is a rfa next year and will get paid. The Leafs would likely entertain trading him while Marner is still on his ELC. The Leafs have a ton of cap space this summer but have the Marner and Matthews contracts coming in a year. If they add $5.75M in Dougie they could still potentially keep JVR or take a swing st Tavares.

Nylander+1st for Hamilton is a good trade for both teams

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

On the other hand, it has the merit of being a deal the Sabres may actually accept.

But let's continue with fantasy trades that the other team has 0% chance of agreeing to, where we get something really good back in exchange for players nobody really cares about.

Yeah I have no idea why Buffalo would ever accept any of these deals.

Even if they would be sold on the potential of Janko and Bennett (and why would they be ?!), they would have zero interest in gambling on future potential yet again after drafting high for years now.

That team needs desperately proven, top nhl talent like ROR, not magic beans.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Yeah I have no idea why Buffalo would ever accept any of these deals.

Even if they would be sold on the potential of Janko and Bennett (and why would they be ?!), they would have zero interest in gambling on future potential yet again after drafting high for years now.

That team needs desperately proven, top nhl talent like ROR, not magic beans.

I think where the ROR rumor stems from is the fact that his end of season presser would indicate he's not happy being in Buffalo. This may force Buffalo's hand to trade him, doesn't mean he gets traded for sure however.

Brodie+Bennett would definitely get the ball rolling for ROR, why wouldn't it?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Calgary is not good enough team, as it stands, to be trading away 2nd and 3rd year NHLers and high end prospects.

Was there any conclusion made on whether Backlunds NTC kicks in before or after July 1st?

It cannot kick in until July 1 as the contract does take effect until that day.