2007 NFL Season Thread

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

what is skewed is the cherry picking of stats.

Overall he is #19 in rating, in a team that should be able to help his ranking by giving him easier yards in the 4th Q.

The pack is downright dead in 06, time to look at the future.

Cherry picking????????? Yards are easier in the 4th? Does that apply only to the Packers/Favre or does that apply to all teams? Talk about making crap up.

What stats are you wanting to argue about?

Is he now 19 in the entire NFL, or does that include the backups who have thrown 20 or 30 passes?...i was looking at these earlier today.

Either way....that would make him more effective than 13 other guys who started for thir clubs this season.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Cherry picking????????? Yards are easier in the 4th? Does that apply only to the Packers/Favre or does that apply to all teams? Talk about making crap up.

What stats are you wanting to argue about?

Is he now 19 in the entire NFL, or does that include the backups who have thrown 20 or 30 passes?...i was looking at these earlier today.

Either way....that would make him more effective than 13 other guys who started for thir clubs this season.

Transplant it does apply to all teams ... BUT ONLY WHEN THEY ARE LOSING.

And Green Bay has done a ton of losing. Look at historical stats over the last few years and see what you find. Aaron Brooks was ranked near the top for several years. Is Aaron Brooks a premier QB?

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Kiss my butt.

They are facts...pure and simple. What is skewed exactly?

Stating he is 3rd in QB rating amoung QBs with 400+ completions.

It is double talk Tranny, get a life.

And no, I will not "Kiss your butt", grow up.

[kipperfan]

How bout them Cowboys!!!

Oh man that was a close game....Martina looked good when it counted though and romo stepped up in the final quarter. Baring a total colapse I will say the Cowboys have the division....and soon the Superbowl! muhhahaha

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Is he now 19 in the entire NFL, or does that include the backups who have thrown 20 or 30 passes?...i was looking at these earlier today.

Either way....that would make him more effective than 13 other guys who started for thir clubs this season.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Geez Tranny, talk about skewing the stats in your favor.

Who cares if he is 3rd amoung those attempting 400 or more BECAUSE there are only 3 QBs who are in that position. Of course, you neglected to mention that.

Currently he sits 19th in the league in overall passer rating amoung starting QBs.

I'm not in the catigory of person who wants to label him as a piece of crap, but come on, you know better than to argue like that.

[Flames in 07]

I just looked it up. 18 starting qb's have a better ranking than Farve. Without picking individual attributes and listing 3 or 4 people he is better than this is a decent all up view.

Brett has had a great career but he's had a brutal 2 or 3 years. He's a compeditor, you have to respect his starting games streak, but his team is in quicksand until he leaves. He forces far too many passes and he's too selfish. he has said many times that it is not his job to groom Rodgers for the starting role. Nice team guy, Green Bay has stunk for years now, and will continue to until they can turn the page on Brett.

[Saint Troy]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

How bout them Cowboys!!!

Oh man that was a close game....Martina looked good when it counted though and romo stepped up in the final quarter. Baring a total colapse I will say the Cowboys have the division....and soon the Superbowl! muhhahaha

Man am I looking forward to next weeks Sunday nighter, could be a big game for seeding in the NFC. I like the Saints chances if we have Colston and Horn ready to go, as Reggie looks to be settling in and over the ankle injury that's been plaguing him since Green Bay. Solid effort by the team today, lots of Deuce and Bush, best running game of the season, and the defence shut down Gore.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

Man am I looking forward to next weeks Sunday nighter, could be a big game for seeding in the NFC. I like the Saints chances if we have Colston and Horn ready to go, as Reggie looks to be settling in and over the ankle injury that's been plaguing him since Green Bay. Solid effort by the team today, lots of Deuce and Bush, best running game of the season, and the defence shut down Gore.

Geaux Saints!!

All that without thier best two WR's. Sounds like Colston will be good to go next week.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Stating he is 3rd in QB rating amoung QBs with 400+ completions.

It is double talk Tranny, get a life.

And no, I will not "Kiss your butt", grow up.

I see....so that is the stat that matters to you in the list i gave....got it.

And who is double-talking??

What about the rest of them? What of those?

Grow up indeed.

[transplant99]

Geez....hope Wilson is OK...that looked not so good at all.

What an awful football game overall though.

Two completely inept offenses so far....but Denvers D looks like they did earlier in the year, which could carry them a long ways.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Geez....hope Wilson is OK...that looked not so good at all.

What an awful football game overall though.

Two completely inept offenses so far....but Denvers D looks like they did earlier in the year, which could carry them a long ways.

They're done like dinner. They had to have this one IMO, making next week a throw away in SD. Now they have to win next week...ain't gonna happen.

Other than the Bears a couple of times this year, I'm not sure I've seen a team do less to win a football game than the Seahawks tonight. Horseshoes up their collective arses to be sure.

Al Wilson is the heart and soul of the Broncos. If he's out it will be a devestating loss. Most underrated defensive player in the league by far.

[KTown]

Sigh, another year and no playoffs for Miami. I should get use to it, but I just can't

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by KTown

Sigh, another year and no playoffs for Miami. I should get use to it, but I just can't

My fear for you is that they will start the season with a healthy Culpepper at QB. I think that would be a bad move.

The defense is starting to age a bit too. They might have a very, very narrow window.

[flames_1987]

Poor Al Wilson, gotta feel for the guy.

Man I hope the Colts just slaughter JAX next week, god I hate the Jaguars

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Poor Al Wilson, gotta feel for the guy.

Man I hope the Colts just slaughter JAX next week, god I hate the Jaguars

DITTO.

The Broncos need lots of help.

I do hate the Jags though...moreso than most NFL teams.

[browna]

Watched the SEA/DEN game with my very good buddy, a die hard Broncos fan (we went down to SEA 3 years ago, last time they played).

Both tearing our hair out. Hasselback did nothing but 2 passes down the middle on the TD drive. Other then that, mismanaged the clock, threw bad passes, and looked as lost out there as Cutler. Thankfully, he didn't turn the ball over like I fulled expected him too, and DEN gifted them all those turnovers.

Defense got the 1 INT, but a horrible job of tackling. e first half was bad, the LB's made the wrong reads and allowed Bell to often walk through into the secondary....and then the 71yd play with under 3 to go was a complete shambles, with 5 guys easily being able to tackle him, but all missing.

Ugly, ugly game...but SEA now all but wrapping division up with a 3 game lead...but they need that 2nd spot in the NFC...with DAL and NO on top of 2 other divisions, and playing each other next week, its going to be tight.

[Sylvanfan]

Good job by the Chiefs to blow a 14 point lead and basically take themselves out of the playoffs today. Sickening. Baltimore clubs them 35-0 next week and ends the December winning streak in Arrowhead. Carve it in stone.

Everything was there for them, if they go into next week at 8-4 they're sitting very nice. But no they have to play Vermeil era defence in that 4th quarter against a backup QB and stop moving the ball on offence. God damn am I ever angry at that choke job today. Bengals are now in the playoffs. Way to go Chiefs...Arghhhh!!!!!

[Displaced Flames fan]

AFC Wildcard race is WILD.

Assuming the division leaders don't collapse, and they all have 2 game leads or better, you are left with 5 teams for 2 spots...all at 7-5. Given the various tiebreakers they stand as follows.

1. Cincinnatti
1. NY Jets
3. Jacksonville
4. Kansas City
5. Denver

Remainings schedules

Cincinatti: Oakland, @Indianapolis, @Denver, Pittsburgh
Jets: Buffalo, @Minnesota, @Miami, Oakland
Jacksonville: Indianapolis, @Tennessee, New England, @Kansas City
Kansas City: Baltimore, @San Diego, @Oakland, Jacksonville
Denver: @San Diego, @Arizona, San Francisco, Cincinatti

So, looking at that mess...which two teams get in?

I have no idea. I'd say Denver and the Jets have the easiest schedules, but none of them are real easy.

Crazy last 4 weeks!

[moon]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

AFC Wildcard race is WILD.

Assuming the division leaders don't collapse, and they all have 2 game leads or better, you are left with 5 teams for 2 spots...all at 7-5. Given the various tiebreakers they stand as follows.

1. Cincinnatti
1. NY Jets
3. Jacksonville
4. Kansas City
5. Denver

Remainings schedules

Cincinatti: Oakland, @Indianapolis, @Denver, Pittsburgh
Jets: Buffalo, @Minnesota, @Miami, Oakland
Jacksonville: Indianapolis, @Tennessee, New England, @Kansas City
Kansas City: Baltimore, @San Diego, @Oakland, Jacksonville
Denver: @San Diego, @Arizona, San Francisco, Cincinatti

So, looking at that mess...which two teams get in?

Jets have the easiest schedule but are probably the worst team. Bufffalo has played well as of late and two road games against okay opponents could be tough.

Jacksonville is way too inconsistent for me. That Tennessee game has must win let written all over it. Indy and NE are tough games to and if that KC game means something I don't liek the Jags chances in Arrowhead.

KC plays some tough defenses and although Green looked better this week if you cant beat the Browns then I don't pick you to beat the Ravens and Chargers.

That Denver Cincinatti game could decide which one gets in. I think the BEngals are more talented and with a rookie QB for the Donkeys I pick Cinci.

I think that based on their schedule that the Jets could be the other team. they could win all fours of their games and should be favored in each one. Each other team has a much tougher schedule. I think Cinci and Denver are the two best teams, but the switch to Cutler doesn't make me want to bet on Denver.

Jets and Bengals make it.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

AFC Wildcard race is WILD.

Assuming the division leaders don't collapse, and they all have 2 game leads or better, you are left with 5 teams for 2 spots...all at 7-5. Given the various tiebreakers they stand as follows.

1. Cincinnatti
1. NY Jets
3. Jacksonville
4. Kansas City
5. Denver

Remainings schedules

Cincinatti: Oakland, @Indianapolis, @Denver, Pittsburgh
Jets: Buffalo, @Minnesota, @Miami, Oakland
Jacksonville: Indianapolis, @Tennessee, New England, @Kansas City
Kansas City: Baltimore, @San Diego, @Oakland, Jacksonville
Denver: @San Diego, @Arizona, San Francisco, Cincinatti

So, looking at that mess...which two teams get in?

I have no idea. I'd say Denver and the Jets have the easiest schedules, but none of them are real easy.

Crazy last 4 weeks!

The JETS! are going to be there baby!!

J E T S GOOOOOO JJJJJEEEEETTTSSS!!!