[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[kukkudo]

At the end of the day its about results not the analytics of oh they did this and did that they SUCKED this year plain and simple. Lets just accept that the 17-18 Flames underperformed that falls on the management, coach and players.

[Ryan Coke]

Yeah, let’s hang onto Gully in case we can’t find an improvement. Awesome.

In spite of all obvious evidence this team isn’t going anywhere with this coach, we’re going to hang onto him as an insurance policy in case we can’t find a better coach. Insurance so that we can ensure another season of underachievement.

Reach high, Calgary Flames, reach high.

I don’t think that’s true, but if it is, this organization really is messed up.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by nik-

I think the key is to stop saying deep dive as a counter to people who are frustrated and annoyed with this staff. No one cares about some mystery stat that ignores the results at this point. People are tired of it.

People want goals, and wins and a coach that can motivate a team and have them ready to play. Like it or not, pros or not, getting a team ready to go is part of the coach's job.

A lot of people are bored of deep diving stats that fly in the face of what really matters, and what they're seeing when they watch these boring games. They might have been interested in that three months ago, but it's over.

Maybe people should also realize that all Bingo is saying is that Treliving not firing Gulutzan the day the season finished isn't the end of the world.

It's April 17th. The first round of the playoffs are barely at the mid-point. The draft lottery is 11 days away, the draft isn't until June 22nd.

Treliving has lots of time to make this decision and there are likely things going on behind the scenes too.

He had to have all his player meetings, coaching staff meetings, professional scouting staff meetings, and I'm sure he had to review some type of plan/proposal for changes this off-season with Burke, King, and the Ownership group.

When Hartley was fired it was done on May 3rd, their season ended April 9th that year, and the firing was done after the conclusion of the first round of the playoffs.

That probably gives you an idea of the process and timelines that we should expect from Treliving here.

Originally Posted by nik-

I think the key is to stop saying deep dive as a counter to people who are frustrated and annoyed with this staff. No one cares about some mystery stat that ignores the results at this point. People are tired of it.

People want goals, and wins and a coach that can motivate a team and have them ready to play. Like it or not, pros or not, getting a team ready to go is part of the coach's job.

A lot of people are bored of deep diving stats that fly in the face of what really matters, and what they're seeing when they watch these boring games. They might have been interested in that three months ago, but it's over.

Deep dive has nothing to do with advanced stats.

It's more likely talking to the core players on the team in detail about their thoughts about what went wrong this year, and if they think coaching is part of that.

It's meeting with your AGMs, Scouting staff, talking to other trusted hockey minds and getting their 2 cents.

And it's likely having to bring a plan and a proposal to the Flames executive team and ownership group and getting their approval on any move, and the timing from that move.

EDIT: Good thing everyone was freaking out that Treliving was taking so long.

[Matt Reeeeead]

FIRED - everyone is gone!

[Ryan Coke]

Hahahahah...


Yay!

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

Yeah, let’s hang onto Gully in case we can’t find an improvement. Awesome.

In spite of all obvious evidence this team isn’t going anywhere with this coach, we’re going to hang onto him as an insurance policy in case we can’t find a better coach. Insurance so that we can ensure another season of underachievement.

Reach high, Calgary Flames, reach high.

I don’t think that’s true, but if it is, this organization really is messed up.

As opposed to firing GG, having no insurance policy and ending up with an even worse coach possibly? That would reflect very poorly on management. Even worse than holding onto GG IMO.

I can't imagine BT selling that to management:
MNGMNT: So, what's the plan?
BT: Firing the coach.
M: Then?
BT: Hope there's someone better out there.
M:If not?
BT:Oops.

[Timbo]

Official GG and Assistants released

[ComixZone]

If Treliving keeps Gully, Treliving is openly admitting he failed - above all else. He's saying he failed Gully, more than Gully failed Treliving. That the roster was the problem, more than the coach was the problem.

I can't say I agree with Treliving on this front, but it's hard to complain about a man willing to stand up and own what he decides was he own failure.

The onus is now on Treliving in a big, big way to "fix" the roster issues that face this team.

[Textcritic]

Gulutzan has been fired, along with his assistants.

As per SN960.

[Gunkle]

Celebrations ensue

[transplant99]

per 960

[Toonage]

He goooooooonnnnnne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

[MissTeeks]

And now the last three pages of this thread were completely pointless lol.

[dammage79]

Yes!!!! Thank you gods!!!

[Vinny01]

What really?

[nik-]

thank the maker

[Ryan Coke]

And rest of coaching staff.

[kukkudo]

Party time!!!!

[Yamer]

https://twitter.com/user/status/986335406403694592

[Timbo]

BT 3:30 presser