Leafs Ripping off Scalpers. Boohoo

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

He’s gotta get his tickets somewhere and Bronco guy doesn’t exactly scream “I can afford 20 sets of season tickets” more like “I live in a van down by the river”.

If he’s not getting them from the Flames (or someone in their ticket office), then I have no idea how he gets them.

Bronco man sits right behind the bench in the most expensive seats in the house most nights cheering on whomever is playing against the Flames. He’s an enigma.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

He buys them cheaply from people who want to sell them and resells them for slightly more to people who want to buy them.

He also has a day job.

I don’t think that’s the only way he gets them. Those guys don’t show up with no tickets and only resell what they buy from fans. Nor would I believe they get all those tickets by keeping an eye on kijiji looking for deals.

And there’s 3 or 4 of those guys there full time. Just seems like way too many tickets that they’d just come by on the cheap.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Weitz

He suggested to me one time he gets tickets to certain games at discounted/season ticket holder prices to get more people in the door. He suggested this to me when i bought tickets for the wife from him for the Canucks game 6 in 2014.

Whether that is true or not I don’t really know.

I suspect he's as full of crap as his hair is full of grease.

It doesn't make logical sense that someone would come all the way down to Vic Park LRT with the intention of coming to a game, but not go five minutes farther to the Saddledome box office if he didn't have tickets available.

Scalpers don't increase demand or attendance. They never have.

[loob job]

Here is a very interesting article. Says that pro teams work with stubhub etc.
https://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2018/03/29/jays-get-a-cut-from-online-scalpers.html

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by loob job

Here is a very interesting article. Says that pro teams work with stubhub etc.
https://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/2018/03/29/jays-get-a-cut-from-online-scalpers.html

I have no doubt about this- Just like Bands (and/or probably promoters) have a stake in all the premium tickets I can never find when trying to buy tickets the morning they go on sale, but front rows are available on Stubhub minutes later.
The ticket industry is very broken

[rage2]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I don’t think that’s the only way he gets them. Those guys don’t show up with no tickets and only resell what they buy from fans. Nor would I believe they get all those tickets by keeping an eye on kijiji looking for deals.

And there’s 3 or 4 of those guys there full time. Just seems like way too many tickets that they’d just come by on the cheap.

I know 5 season ticket holders (2-4 seats) that sells to him regularly. He'll buy any game off them, even if it's a Wednesday night Minnesota game that's impossible to offload these days. They do it out of convenience because it's easy and reliable.

[RM14]

About 2 weeks ago, The Fifth Estate had a good 30 minute documentary into this whole thing. Link below.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/201...super-scalpers

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

There are like 5 million people within driving distance who want that ticket. Supply and demand man. Pretty simple.

And there were 97 tickets available to the general public for game 3. I'm sure none were left unsold.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

He buys them cheaply from people who want to sell them and resells them for slightly more to people who want to buy them.

He also has a day job.

Does he? My wife used to work at a ticketmaster back when you had to line up for concert tickets and apparently Bronco man and another person there had an arrangement where while they were "testing" to see if they could get into the system they would pull a couple pair of the choice seats for some small amount of money (around $40). My wife worked one day when that other person wan't there and Bronco man approached her with the arrangement she told him to piss off. Security ended up getting called and Bronco man was rather salty. Guy is a apparently a prick.

[Nsd1]

Is this Bronco man the same guy who waits outside of morning skates with a box full of stuff to get autographed?

[dubc80]

Lots of teams are actually in on the scalping as they take a cut of what is sold on the inflated re-sale market.

This article is about the Blue Jays, but I believe lots of teams are in the same boat.


https://globalnews.ca/news/4114882/s...nto-blue-jays/


Ten years after Major League Baseball agreed to a deal with online ticket reseller StubHub, the Toronto Blue Jays baseball team has signed on.

The deal will see the team get an unspecified cut of revenue from tickets sold on the platform.

The partnership between the Blue Jays and StubHub, which is owned by eBay, was first announced on March 30, 2017 in a press release.

It was described as “a fully integrated ticketing solution that will enable all Blue Jays Season ticket members, Game Pack holders and single-game ticket buyers to re-sell, purchase and electronically transmit tickets conveniently, safely and securely on the StubHub platform.”

Now, according to a Toronto Star and CBC News investigation, the Blue Jays are set to “receive secret commissions on every ticket sold on StubHub, allowing the club to profit on the scalping of its own seats”.

[spetch]

I like what Vegas did for the playoffs this year. You got a huge discount on your ticket if you give up the right to transfer them. I would suspect it works for them since all their tickets are electronic, but it definitely cut back on the amount of Kings jerseys in the stands.

[Browndog71]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Sorry for the triple post.

I had a conversation about this with a guy who scalps in Toronto. He even had a business card and 5 other guys working for him (all in matching jackets). He told me straight up he get tickets from the leafs/jays. Mid conversation a car drove up and his lackey walked over and grabbed an envelope full of tickets (this was Grey cup 100) from the passenger. Must have been 30 tickets in it. It was weird experience, something shifty is happening.

Last year, when the Flames were in Toronto at the ACC, I purchased tickets from Stubhub that for one reason or another didn't work and I couldn't get in to arena. (I was ultimately refunded, plus a $80 voucher from Stubhub).

I was then directed to the head of sales that was working the game and he ended up getting me another set. He asked where I got my tickets and I told him Stubhub, which was surprising to us both, because they are usually very reputable and I have never had a problem with them.

The head sales guy then actually told me that my best bet was with getting tickets from one of the scalpers outside the ACC as they are usually better than most of the sites and they work "with" the Leafs...I was actually fairly surprised he said that.

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

These guys have family you know. Let’s tone it down.

If you had any dealings with him in person (like trying to sell your own playoff tickets for face value) then you'd understand people's resentment towards him.

He's a grade A jerk, family or no family.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

Is this Bronco man the same guy who waits outside of morning skates with a box full of stuff to get autographed?

No

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by rohara66

If you had any dealings with him in person (like trying to sell your own playoff tickets for face value) then you'd understand people's resentment towards him.

He's a grade A jerk, family or no family.

Are you suggesting he's... a bum?

Oh boy...

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Browndog71

The head sales guy then actually told me that my best bet was with getting tickets from one of the scalpers outside the ACC as they are usually better than most of the sites and they work "with" the Leafs...I was actually fairly surprised he said that.

Yeah it’s very real. He has employees. And they all wear matching Canada goose jackets. Or at least they did when that was still “cool”... is it still “cool”?

[TheOnlyBilko]

Originally Posted by Hanna Sniper

They fail to mention in the article to buy Maple Leafs season tickets you also need to purchase Raptors season tickets

The reason why many Raptor tickets are easily donated and given away by Maple Leafs fans. I guess these season ticket holders can now be labeled commercial sellers and have both season tickets prices now increased

What an underhanded money grab

Are you serious? If you want TML season tix you must ALSO buy Raptors Season tix?? Wow haha I had no idea. I could understand doing with say Argos tix or if the Flames made you buy Stamps tix since they are only a few hundred bucks but Geez Raptors season tickets gotta cost a pretty penny!!

[TheOnlyBilko]

Oh and where the heck does everyone get all the extra cash to buy TML and Raptor season tix every single season? Hahaha

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TheOnlyBilko

Oh and where the heck does everyone get all the extra cash to buy TML and Raptor season tix every single season? Hahaha

You don’t really. That’s why companies own almost all of them (or so it seems).