Cagary man shamed in accidental death of his dog commits suicide

[Erick Estrada]

I prefer to simply avoid getting charged with a crime but if ever caught in a bad situation that didn't put you in a good light probably best to shield yourself from all social media as you will be judged harshly as people in this day and age just love to be outraged.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I prefer to simply avoid getting charged with a crime.

You mean you avoid social media? Avoiding committing crimes has nothing to do with whether not you’ll get shamed on social media.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

You mean you avoid social media? Avoiding committing crimes has nothing to do with whether not you’ll get shamed on social media.

I edited my post because it seems like maybe my post was difficult to comprehend but you typically don't get shamed on social media unless you commit a crime or do something stupid.

[spuzzum]

Goes to show how society is going to hell with social media. The death of a dog causes a human being to commit suicide. I'm so bloody tired of the organic beef feeding, tree hugging, so called socialite elitists with nothing better to do than publicly shame people online because they don't have the balls to do it in person.

[Swift]

Those damn pinko commie socialites are the worst.

[N-E-B]

Pretty sad story all around. Two uneccessary deaths.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by spuzzum

Goes to show how society is going to hell with social media. The death of a dog causes a human being to commit suicide. I'm so bloody tired of the organic beef feeding, tree hugging, so called socialite elitists with nothing better to do than publicly shame people online because they don't have the balls to do it in person.

From the link posted in the first post:

His loved ones don't draw a direct connection between his death and the death of his dog. They recognize he had been struggling with isolation and addiction long before he lost his closest companion and became a social media pariah. And mental health experts say suicide is a complex act, never the result of a single factor.

[SDV325]

Such a heart breaking story all around. About 5 years ago i work with him at an EPCM company in the NE. Granted he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and a little bit of an odd ball, he never deserved the treatment he received from what happened, no one does.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I edited my post because it seems like maybe my post was difficult to comprehend but you typically don't get shamed on social media unless you commit a crime or do something stupid.

Or people misunderstand your comment or don't take a joke the right way, or you're just a good Samaritan.

Sure, it's Florida but... still.

https://globalnews.ca/news/3558935/g...hild-predator/

“It’s understandable how parents can possibly be upset in a situation involving a lost child,” police said in a statement. “However, this incident truly involved a Good Samaritan trying to assist a lost child finding their parents.”

WFLA reported after the incident that the Good Samaritan’s photo and Facebook page were shared on social media, calling the man a child predator. Police warned on Facebook the sharing of misinformation can lead to charges.

“Accounts of this incident have circulated on social media with false information and speculation. Posting false information on Facebook could cause a defamation of character claim and those posting false information could be held liable,” reads the statement. “Be careful about what you post on social media so as not to victimize an innocent person. Before posting information on matters such as this, we encourage people to identify the source and the validity of such claims before sharing them.”

The warning prompted those who shared the false information to retract their posts.

“I was one of those who shared post thinking it was helpful, now I feel awful that it clearly was not!” Brianna Cruz admitted on Lakeland Police Department’s Facebook page. “Definitely teaches me to double check sources before spreading! All in all I’m happy this little girl is safe though. Don’t think the guy should have gotten the treatment he did though.”

“I was particularly interested in the post because this guy lives two houses away from me,” James Jordan wrote. “I too initially shared the post, but immediately thought to myself – what if it’s not true? So I called PCSO and they told me it wasn’t their case and transferred me to LPD.”

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

It is a terrible story of how addiction can get the worst of person. Should people online take this into consideration? Of course. Better yet, why is the original event even a story that needs to be posted. Is it even 'news'. This is the biggest issue.

However, I get the outrage. This guy was at best negligent giving his dog to someone else, who then put the dog in his vehicle in the heat for days... (yeah right) OR at worst was an addict who put his dog in the car and forget about it.

Yeah, when I first saw the headline I felt awful for the guy, and wanted to throttle the people who said that to him online. But as I read the full story, my view changed a bit. Still feel bad for him, but his negligence was a direct cause in his dog's death. Man, what an awful way to go, locked in a hot car like that.

Basically he had become an irresponsible, neglectful parent. And the people telling him to kill himself online look like savages. Pretty much everyone looks bad here, what a tragic story all around.

[OMG!WTF!]

I usually don't care about language one way of another but I have a really hard time with the title of this thread. It really was not an accident. Sad story though. A reminder how quickly things can spiral.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by SDV325

Such a heart breaking story all around. About 5 years ago i work with him at an EPCM company in the NE. Granted he wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed and a little bit of an odd ball, he never deserved the treatment he received from what happened, no one does.

its sad that people are able to play the 'internet tough guy' via the anonymity that social media affords us...

people make mistakes...

humanity is pretty depressing sometimes

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I usually don't care about language one way of another but I have a really hard time with the title of this thread. It really was not an accident. Sad story though. A reminder how quickly things can spiral.

You are implying he intentionally killed his pet?

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Flacker

You are implying he intentionally killed his pet?

Not at all. But neither is it truly and accident. Lightning didn't strike here. His mistake and negligence caused the unfortunate occurrence. Whether his intent was to kill is dog isn't the issue. That didn't factor in to his charges either. There are lots of legal definitions of accidents and most include.....

an unforeseen and injurious occurrence not attributable to mistake, negligence, neglect or misconduct".

There are car accidents and then there is getting hammered and plowing into a parked car.

[Sliver]

It's an incident that happened unintentionally. It's the very definition of an accident.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Sliver

It's an incident that happened unintentionally. It's the very definition of an accident.

The guy provided you the definition of an accident to explain his reasoning.

Negligence=/=accident.

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by Sliver

It's an incident that happened unintentionally. It's the very definition of an accident.

I'm not pretending I know what happened but he was charged with a crime here so that tells me he was the one responsible for leaving the dog in a car for five days. He was also an alcoholic who was slipping in other areas of his responsibilities. So if an alcoholic parent forgot his/her kid in a car for five days, would that also be an accident?

This is exactly not the definition of accident.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

The guy provided you the definition of an accident to explain his reasoning.

Negligence=/=accident.

But that's super stupid because you can't just redefine a word to suit your purposes. There is a definition of accident and the death of this dog fits that definition.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I'm not pretending I know what happened but he was charged with a crime here so that tells me he was the one responsible for leaving the dog in a car for five days. He was also an alcoholic who was slipping in other areas of his responsibilities. So if an alcoholic parent forgot his/her kid in a car for five days, would that also be an accident?

This is exactly not the definition of accident.

I think you need to actually read the definition of an accident.

ac·ci·dent

noun

1. an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.

2. an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause.

This was an accident.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I think you need to actually read the definition of an accident.

ac·ci·dent

noun

1. an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.

2. an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause.

This was an accident.

Locking your dog in a car because you were too drunk to remember, and then having the unfortunate outcome of it dieing, is not unexpected or without apparent cause. It's negligence, not an accident.