[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[Igottago]

Isn't Peters the guy who publicly shamed Lack for bad goaltending?
His NHL head coaching record isn't very good. Granted Carolina is not a good team, but still. I just don't see why the Flames would want someone without a strong track record at this point. They aren't starting a rebuild, they need to start getting to the next level.

[Toonage]

If Peters is their guy, I can only assume its because he's a meaner version of Gulutzan. Plays the style that Treliving wants to see from his team but might command a bit more respect. All guesses at this point.

[Moneyhands23]

Fml is this a case of nobody with a winning pedigree wanting to come to Calgary. Or is he the cheap option that the owners are willing to pay. Bill f'n Peters is not the proven coach we need!

I hope this isn't true news.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Any time you can get the inside track on a coach whose team has never finished higher than 6th in their division you gotta jump on that. Those guys don’t just grow on trees.

[I_H8_Crawford]

LOL, how about Peter's as HC, GG as Associate HC?

Treliving doubling down lmao.

FML

[The Fonz]

Sickening, if true.

Alain Vigneault is available, a coach with a career .533 win% (for reference, Babcock is .539), 4 x Division & 2 x Conference titles in the last 8 years (+ 1 President's Trophy), whose coaching style is fast-paced and entertaining, and we're basing the decision of firing Gulutzan on whether or not Bill Peters becomes available?

Bill Peters
.418 career win%
0 playoff appearances

If this source is accurate, then Treliving is the problem here. I won't be around for another season of boring, losing hockey, where we all sit around and argue whether the eye-test is accurate or the stat-logged HDCF%.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sickening, if true.

Alain Vigneault is available, a coach with a career .533 win% (for reference, Babcock is .539), 4 x Division & 2 x Conference titles in the last 8 years (+ 1 President's Trophy), whose coaching style is fast-paced and entertaining, and we're basing the decision of firing Gulutzan on whether or not Bill Peters becomes available?

Bill Peters
.418 career win%
0 playoff appearances

If this source is accurate, then Treliving is the problem here. I won't be around for another season of boring, losing hockey, where we all sit around and argue whether the eye-test is accurate or the stat-logged HDCF%.

If this happens I will be focusing on the NFl and MLB. I get the fact that maybe AV has turned down an offer here ( no idea either way). But hire a coach that has proven he can win in the NHL for christ sake!

[Roof-Daddy]

lol

AV sitting there and we have an offer out to Bill Peters eh?

Awesome. I mean, maybe AV wouldn't come here anyways, and I guess we'll never know for sure, but he will probably go to Dallas and they will start to rack up 100+ point seasons under his watch.

[Monahan For Mayor]

The games we played against Carolina last year they did look fast and exciting. He may be a possession/advanced stats guy, but I do think he gets them in a different way than Gulutzan.

[Otto-matic]

This seems like a very Flames thing to do. Hire a coach another average coach when you have a big fish on the market.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Sickening, if true.

Alain Vigneault is available, a coach with a career .533 win% (for reference, Babcock is .539), 4 x Division & 2 x Conference titles in the last 8 years (+ 1 President's Trophy), whose coaching style is fast-paced and entertaining, and we're basing the decision of firing Gulutzan on whether or not Bill Peters becomes available?

Bill Peters
.418 career win%
0 playoff appearances

If this source is accurate, then Treliving is the problem here. I won't be around for another season of boring, losing hockey, where we all sit around and argue whether the eye-test is accurate or the stat-logged HDCF%.

Well. for all we know, AV is saying no to the Flames because he can go to a bigger market or less pressure, or because he wants a year off, or because he doesn't like the circumstances. There's always such an assumption here that when something doesn't happen it's because the Flames didn't even try.

[GoJetsGo]

The important thing is to freak out now. Those who have been losing it because a firing hasn't been announced yet can freak out about a hiring that hasn't happened yet.

Seeing a lot of "If _____ happens, I'm not watching next season". Really hoping these people stick to their word and hit the log out button on the top right at the same time.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

This seems like a very Flames thing to do. Hire a coach another average coach when you have a big fish on the market.

What it is I think is that Treliving has decided that he will live/die by the team playing his style of hockey, which can be commendable or shortsighted, depending on your perspective...

[GranteedEV]

Per-82 game averages

Eric Staal 2 years before Bill Peters
25.2 G
48.4 A
73.6 P

Eric Staal 2 years under Bill Peters
19.3 G
31.6 A
50.9 P

Eric Staal 2 years after Bill Peters
35.0 G
35.5 A
70.5 P

If Bennett is going to break out post-Gulutzan, I doubt it'd be under Bill Peters. And getting more out of Bennett (among others) is the foremost reason to fire Gulutzan.

I admit sometimes you need to play a responsible style, but Peters seems like another in a long line of coaches who overcoach the offense out of good players. We've already got one of those.

[dammage79]

Carolina had one problem this year, goaltending. I think Peter's actually had his team clicking except Darling and Ward kind of pooped the bed.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Well. for all we know, AV is saying no to the Flames because he can go to a bigger market or less pressure, or because he wants a year off, or because he doesn't like the circumstances. There's always such an assumption here that when something doesn't happen it's because the Flames didn't even try.

I guess part of what I'm arguing is, with respect to Bill Peters, why are they even trying? That's assuming the source is accurate, and there is an offer on the table. That's terrifying.

Darryl Sutter is at home, and Barry Trotz is playing what appears to be his final games in Washington.

Bill Peters shouldn't even be on the radar until all 3 of Vigneault, Trotz, and Sutter, have declined offers from the Flames.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If Peters is their guy, I can only assume its because he's a meaner version of Gulutzan. Plays the style that Treliving wants to see from his team but might command a bit more respect. All guesses at this point.

I think this is probably it. If Peters is the guy, then it may signal more clearly what Treliving sees as the main issues—not so much systemic, but more in Gulutzan's inability to manage his players. It seems like a reasonable conclusion to draw: the team's performance mid-season to start games; their inexplicably awful performance on home ice; their failure to execute on the powerplay; their tendency to unravel when surrendering a goal are all things that seem like they could be correctable under a different hand.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

The important thing is to freak out now. Those who have been losing it because a firing hasn't been announced yet can freak out about a hiring that hasn't happened yet.

Seeing a lot of "If _____ happens, I'm not watching next season". Really hoping these people stick to their word and hit the log out button on the top right at the same time.

I will still watch my team. But I wont be buying jerseys, paying for centre ice or travelling to calgary if we muck up another coach hiring (in my opinion).

I will spend my money going to watch baseball and football and some of my other interests .

im a cowboys fan and i have more faith in jerry jones than i do in the flames making the right coaching decision! Lol and yes i know thats lunacy.

[EVERLAST]

Peters shouldn't be on the radar at all. The broadcast team on CBC mentioned after interviewing Staal that he said prior to his trade to Minnesota he'd lost all enthusiasm for the game.
So was that Peter's ? Or the system being employed?

[Monahan For Mayor]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

The important thing is to freak out now. Those who have been losing it because a firing hasn't been announced yet can freak out about a hiring that hasn't happened yet.

Seeing a lot of "If _____ happens, I'm not watching next season". Really hoping these people stick to their word and hit the log out button on the top right at the same time.

I don't see the issue. Ultimately we watch hockey for entertainment. Gulutzan hockey literally puts me to sleep, and I already stopped watching them last season. No issue with people not wanting to waste time watching boring hockey.