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mykalberta · 12-02-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin' Flames

Now maybe it is just me but I really would not think that this is fair. Medical students are not the only ones subsidized in Alberta but so is everyone who goes to law school and any university for that matter. But we wouldn't make any attempts to make these people stay in the province. Doesn't make sense.

Secondly even if something like this were instituted it would not be fair as a persons life circumstances can change over a 10 year period. For example if a med student got married 2 years after being done and their spouse was being transferred out of Alberta. No fault of theirs that they have to move and they aren't moving to chase money.

Life isnt fair and I refuse to feel sorry for doctors who likely average 200K income.

I agree this isnt a Manitoba, Ontario, Saskatchewan plan - this is an Albertan plan. You would need a leader with strong convictions and enough political clout to do the job.

I dont see voters voting against a Premier who instituded these rules because they feel sorry for poor doctors who want to move tot he US.

MYK

mykalberta · 12-02-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakan

Classic.

So the worst you can come up with is politicians saying bad names and some other province being the beneficiary of corruption. If you think Alberta gets a bad run because of the bad words then I'd hate to see what you think about the way Atlantic Canada gets treated by politicians from Alberta (Harper).

As per the scandal, that's more the entire federation getting screwed instead of just Alberta meaning that Alberta isn't signled out at all.

Nice try. This whole poor Alberta act is frickin hilarious. Keep 'em coming.

When those same politicians didnt single out ANY OTHER PROVINCE - then YES.

MYK

Table 5 · 12-02-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Yes, scare tactics...they always work.

How do you think Bush got re-elected? Worked like a charm.

Agamemnon · 12-02-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

Life isnt fair and I refuse to feel sorry for doctors who likely average 200K income.

I agree this isnt a Manitoba, Ontario, Saskatchewan plan - this is an Albertan plan. You would need a leader with strong convictions and enough political clout to do the job.

I dont see voters voting against a Premier who instituded these rules because they feel sorry for poor doctors who want to move tot he US.

MYK

Doctors may be seriously dissuaded from studying in Alberta if they know it means they have to stay for 10 years... isn't that obvious? If your plan is to increase the pool of doctors available in Alberta, I think its got the chance to exactly the opposite.

Fozzie_DeBear · 12-02-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

How do you think Bush got re-elected? Worked like a charm.

Didn't work for Martin...

Agamemnon · 12-02-2006, 09:52 PM

Funny that one side always believes its only the other that uses 'fear tactics'. Its not like its owned by the left or right... every party uses it to varying degrees.

Fozzie_DeBear · 12-02-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Doctors may be seriously dissuaded from studying in Alberta if they know it means they have to stay for 10 years... isn't that obvious? If your plan is to increase the pool of doctors available in Alberta, I think its got the chance to exactly the opposite.

I have to agree, I would rather have an economic carrot that a stick...say that Med students get a generous break on tuition if they agree to work in Alberta for 5 years after graduation.

In the big picture, if you make a crucial service like doctors more open to market forces you are playing with fire IMO.

Table 5 · 12-02-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

Didn't work for Martin...

Didn't say it always worked....but it sure has a pretty good track record.

FireFly · 12-02-2006, 10:28 PM

Current results:

Dinning in the lead with approx 28,000
Stelmach in second with 25,000
Morton rounding out in thirde with 21,000

52% reporting.

JiriHrdina · 12-02-2006, 10:40 PM

I'll say it again- if Stelmach gets through to the finals, he's going to take it. I simply don't see many Morton supports putting Dinning down as their second choice. If Stelmach is anywhere within striking distance of Dinning he'll take it.

FireFly · 12-02-2006, 10:46 PM

35,000
29,000
24,000

Dinning is running away, but thank God for the second choice!

Azure · 12-02-2006, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Table 5

How do you think Bush got re-elected? Worked like a charm.

Usually thats how people get elected in general...especially in the US.

I guess honesty and integrity in politics is a long, lost story.

I-Hate-Hulse · 12-02-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

With the shortage of spots for medical school - my brother had a 3.8GPA coming out of UofA mathmatics major and count get into medical school - I dont think we would have a problem of them going to other provinces since medical school isnt really a money maker for Universities - if people want to leave cayuse they may be charged more if they leave then let them leave - they obviously dont care enoguh about Alberta so let em go and may the massive amounts in the states - umm I dont thinks so.

Uhhh... perhaps he didn't get into Medical School as he took Math.

Not even close to the pre-reqs needed for Med. I know someone that kicked butt in English yet their app was denied... odd....

Can't decipher the rest of your paragraph - kind of like the rest of your argument.

moon · 12-02-2006, 11:07 PM

Good to see that Stelmach will win not because of his policies or qualities but because everyone would rather have him rather than the other guy.

We go from a great Premier to this loser, I can't wait. Hopefully Morton will go over to the Alberta Alliance and kick out the Stelmach PC's in the next election.

Vote for Stelmach he isn't any good but he isn't Dinning or Morton.

Fozzie_DeBear · 12-02-2006, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FireFly

35,000
29,000
24,000

Dinning is running away, but thank God for the second choice!

Hey FF where are you getting the #'s?

Dion · 12-02-2006, 11:24 PM

Stemach will win on the second ballot.

Azure · 12-02-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

Stemach will win on the second ballot.

Better Stelmach than Dinning.

Dion · 12-02-2006, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Better Stelmach than Dinning.

I agree. The editor from the High River Times phoned a certain Calgary Herald reporter to tell him that the rural riding hates Dinning and the suit mentality. The Herald reporter said Dinning was going to win.

The above was mentioned on the Global news cast.

Stelmach reminds of Klien.

Azure · 12-02-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dion

Stelmach reminds of Klien.

So does Morton for that matter.

To me anyways...I just wish he would let the same-sex marriage issue die down...completley. Its over and done with.

I wonder how many votes Morton would get by doing that.

Dion · 12-02-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

So does Morton for that matter.

To me anyways...I just wish he would let the same-sex marriage issue die down...completley. Its over and done with.

I wonder how many votes Morton would get by doing that.

Wasn't Morton going to opt out of the CPP?

And wasn't he for a 2 tiered health care?

Morton is to radical for me.