Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-05-2018, 04:38 PM   #41
Macho0978
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
If Tavares is leaving the Islanders it's because he doesn't want to spend the rest of his career stuck in a mediocre franchise spinning its wheels. So remind me why the Flames look more attractive to him than the Islanders?
Because the Flames have a better record without Tavares than NYI has with him?
Macho0978 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Macho0978 For This Useful Post:
Old 04-05-2018, 04:38 PM   #42
Flashpoint
Not the 1 millionth post winnar
 
Flashpoint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Exp:
Default

Probably wants to know who the coach will be before signing somewhere.
__________________
"Isles give up 3 picks for 5.5 mil of cap space.

Oilers give up a pick and a player to take on 5.5 mil."
-Bax
Flashpoint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 04:40 PM   #43
Beninho
Franchise Player
 
Beninho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Francisco
Exp:
Default

Chances are probably 5% or lower, but who knows. Don’t know how promising the Flames seem to him after this season. Will be interesting to see how it plays out
Beninho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 04:42 PM   #44
djsFlames
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Exp:
Default

Get Darryl in here before FA, then it will probably increase the appeal and outlook of the team IMO.
djsFlames is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to djsFlames For This Useful Post:
Old 04-05-2018, 04:43 PM   #45
The Yen Man
Franchise Player
 
The Yen Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I just don't see Tavares wanting to sign in a small Canadian city. Guy grew up in Toronto, and spent all his professional career in New York. Unless the guy somehow craves small town, prairie living, I just can't see him having any interest in moving to Calgary.
The Yen Man is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 04:46 PM   #46
_Q_
#1 Goaltender
 
_Q_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man View Post
I just don't see Tavares wanting to sign in a small Canadian city. Guy grew up in Toronto, and spent all his professional career in New York. Unless the guy somehow craves small town, prairie living, I just can't see him having any interest in moving to Calgary.
Didn't know the Flames moved to High River
_Q_ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 04:51 PM   #47
TheScorpion
First round-bust
 
TheScorpion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
Exp:
Default

Not a damn chance. But you gotta try
__________________
Need a great deal on a new or pre-owned car? Come see me at Platinum Mitsubishi — 2720 Barlow Trail NE

TheScorpion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 04:51 PM   #48
Lanny'sDaMan
Franchise Player
 
Lanny'sDaMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Nachodamus.
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man View Post
I just don't see Tavares wanting to sign in a small Canadian city. Guy grew up in Toronto, and spent all his professional career in New York. Unless the guy somehow craves small town, prairie living, I just can't see him having any interest in moving to Calgary.

This ain't the 80's anymore. Calgary is known as a thriving city now. Supposedly even more so that we are (apparently) out of the recession now.
Lanny'sDaMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 04:52 PM   #49
ricardodw
Franchise Player
 
ricardodw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Exp:
Default

tell me why Tavares will not be playing for the Leafs who have 30M in cap space next year.
ricardodw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 04:58 PM   #50
TheScorpion
First round-bust
 
TheScorpion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
Exp:
Default

The Leafs will be using that cap space on Nylander, Matthews, and Marner.
__________________
Need a great deal on a new or pre-owned car? Come see me at Platinum Mitsubishi — 2720 Barlow Trail NE

TheScorpion is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to TheScorpion For This Useful Post:
Old 04-05-2018, 05:01 PM   #51
calgarygeologist
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw View Post
Tavares is basically entering the 2nd half of his hockey career.


Over the last 3 years the Islanders traveled an average of 35,092 miles

The Flames averaged 48,253 miles

So as training and conditioning become harder why would he want to add an extra 13,000+ travel miles and extra 37% more travel and wasted time.

It would be interesting how many extra hotel nights the Flames get compared to the Islanders (or all the teams in the North East) where there are 4-5 teams that you either take the team bus or catch a cab/limo to the away arena.

There has to be a 90 percent chance that he signs with a team that travels the same or less than the Islanders.

PS The Ducks and Kings and Vegas travel around 5,000 miles less less than the Flames because they all have 2 close away cities in their division.
If Tavares or any player his age factors in travel miles and nights when making a decision another important factor would be altitude in Calgary. It would be a considerable change and adjustment on his body and training to go from sea level to thin air. It would take him some time to adjust but in the long run it could improve his conditioning.
calgarygeologist is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 05:21 PM   #52
The Boy Wonder
First Line Centre
 
The Boy Wonder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames View Post
Why would a player give a rats ass about a teams arena situation? If that were the case then players would be lining up out the door to go to Edmonton. They have the mcdavid card to play on TOP of that and yet still players don't give them any favoritism.

Because the team terribly underachieved under an assistant coach at best leading the way doesn't take away from the potential adding a piece like Tavares could bring over the coming years and that won't be lost on him if the money and term offered is competitive. You really can't know for sure so saying yes or no definitively is just silly to do. Neither you nor I know what his camp is looking at outside of the contract. One player can see a lot of potential in this group while another may think were a middle of the road team with little appeal. Who knows...just let it play out and see.

There's nothing wrong with entertaining the idea as a fan. Wet blankets that have soured on the team and assume to know what a FA is thinking should just be ignored.

Players care about the arena situation because it could mean relocating. IF someone like Tavares actually considered Calgary, and was starting or had or was considering starting a family, pretty sure youdont want to “settle” ina place that may be moving somewhere in the timeframe of your contract.

I’ll agree it’s not the biggest thing on he list but it is a consideration.


As for ownership, you’d be a fool to think hat Ottawa hasn’t down serious damage to their ability to attract top FAs with the way Karlsson situation has played out this year
The Boy Wonder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 05:30 PM   #53
Timbo
First Line Centre
 
Timbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Fish Creek
Exp:
Default

Tavares is not coming here and Dissentowner is not getting a BT back tattoo.
Timbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 05:33 PM   #54
Poe969
Franchise Player
 
Poe969's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
Exp:
Default

I would love if he signed with the Flames. I can see his agent using the Flames as leverage against another team and the Flames being "in it" only to drive up the value of the contract
__________________
Fan of the Flames, where being OK has become OK.
Poe969 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 05:37 PM   #55
Badgers Nose
Franchise Player
 
Badgers Nose's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Exp:
Default

After Texas and Nevada, Calgary has one of the lowest tax regimes, no? So money is almost in our favour, everything else being equal.

We lose on likelihood of winning now.

We lose on municipal coolness.

If we could get him, you gladly move Backlund to make cap room if that's what you have to do. But I don't think you have to.

If we drive up the price, maybe we can get in on a cap move deal (i.e. someone on a roster has to go to make room for Tavares, maybe we can get that guy).

Last edited by Badgers Nose; 04-05-2018 at 05:39 PM.
Badgers Nose is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 05:41 PM   #56
kyuss275
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

There is a better chance that flames ownership goes back to the table for arena this summer than Tavares signing with the flames. Actually to be fair they would have the same odds .... o%
kyuss275 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kyuss275 For This Useful Post:
Old 04-05-2018, 05:41 PM   #57
edslunch
Franchise Player
 
edslunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion View Post
The Leafs will be using that cap space on Nylander, Matthews, and Marner.
I could see the Leafs going for him anyway and cleaning their cap situation up later
edslunch is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 06:31 PM   #58
Erick Estrada
Franchise Player
 
Erick Estrada's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
Exp:
Default

IMO Vancouver is the only Canadian team that has a chance of landing him and that's because they basically can offer him McDavid money without breaking a sweat. That said I fully expect him to sign with the Rangers as it's kind of a no-brainer as he's already in NY and it's the preferred destination for most players when they hit free agency.
Erick Estrada is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 06:35 PM   #59
Weitz
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
IMO Vancouver is the only Canadian team that has a chance of landing him and that's because they basically can offer him McDavid money without breaking a sweat. That said I fully expect him to sign with the Rangers as it's kind of a no-brainer as he's already in NY and it's the preferred destination for most players when they hit free agency.
Ive heard a few people say that pretty much the only place he has a 0% chance of signing is the rangers. They claim he is too nice of a guy and too loyal to islanders fans for that. By a few people I mean on various radio shows and such.
Weitz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-05-2018, 06:48 PM   #60
Timbo
First Line Centre
 
Timbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Near Fish Creek
Exp:
Default

But the Rangers have stated they are rebuilding . Why would JT go there?
Timbo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Timbo For This Useful Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:11 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy