2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[keenan87]

What are thoughts on Andre Burakovsky? Signed 3.0 mil for 1 more year. Averaging 40 point seasons but hasn't been too healthy. However, I don't think he is getting much of a chance in Washington and being buried. If he can figure out the health issues, maybe he will be a good addition?

Sam Bennett for Andre Burakovsky? Washington relieves some cap (Bennett will cost less than 3 mil) and maybe both players benefit from the change.

Then, make a deal which surrounds TJ Brodie+Gillies/Rittich for Wayne Simmonds? Philly already has Giroux, Couturier, Voracek, and Konecny for offence. Brodie will round out their top 4 defence with Gostisbehere, Provorov, and Sanheim. If Larsson for Hall can get done, this is not far off, keeping in mind that Simmonds didn't have the greatest season either.

Then, sign Antti Raanta to become the 1(b) goalie. On the farm, you split the duties between Parsons and Gillies/Rittich.

Then, hire Sutter as the coach.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Burakovsky
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Simmonds
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway/Mangiapane-Shore-Lazar/Foo/Klimchuk (battle it out in camp)

Giordano-Hamilton
Hamonic-Andersson
Stone-Kulak/Wotherspoon

Smith (55 games)
Raanta (27 games)

Raanta at 3 mil signing gives you ~66.5 MM Cap Hit (still plenty room)

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

What I did was added a top 6 winger like you said.

Originally Posted by Parallex

find enough money to sign a top six winger (a legit one... not another Brouwer) fill out the bottom of the roster with quality depth, and have say 6ish million left over starting in 2019-2020 for Tkachuk while staying under the cap.

You did one of three things I said (and if we're assuming the cap is going up that much say 7ish for Tkachuk). Which is better then nothing but still...

[Harry Lime]

Everyone loves Simmonds and Raanta. Especially Philly and Arizona.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Everyone loves Simmonds and Raanta. Especially Philly and Arizona.

Well, I don't think I necessarily gave up junk in my proposal for Simmonds. They might love him but the rookies are coming together nicely for them as well. As I said, they can potentially a solid top 4 dman on that team who can move the puck. That may give them one of the strongest blueline in the eastern conference (Gostisbehere-Provorov-Brodie-Sanheim-Hagg-Manning). Everyone also thought that Philly loved Mike Richards and Jeff Carter... so crazier things have happened.

As for Raanta. Who knows? They haven't re-signed him yet, so I am not entirely 100% sure if he will be a UFA or not. As it stands at this moment, he will be a UFA. Have you had a chance to speak to their head office lately and did they tell you they love him and will re-sign him?

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by keenan87

What are thoughts on Andre Burakovsky? Signed 3.0 mil for 1 more year. Averaging 40 point seasons but hasn't been too healthy. However, I don't think he is getting much of a chance in Washington and being buried. If he can figure out the health issues, maybe he will be a good addition?

Sam Bennett for Andre Burakovsky? Washington relieves some cap (Bennett will cost less than 3 mil) and maybe both players benefit from the change.

Burakovsky was a slight sleeper pick to really break out this season. Was expecting him to get an opportunity with some form of Ovechkin/Kuznetsov/Backstrom/Perron but he hasn't done much with the top 6 opportunities before and after injuries.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Anduril

Burakovsky was a slight sleeper pick to really break out this season. Was expecting him to get an opportunity with some form of Ovechkin/Kuznetsov/Backstrom/Perron but he hasn't done much with the top 6 opportunities before and after injuries.

Ahh, that's fair. However, at this point, I don't think it can hurt if a deal can be done with him and Bennett. Maybe Burakovsky develops insane chemistry with Gaudreau, as he is also a skilled a guy.

Both players might need a change and I hope it works out for both. Maybe, they play Bennett with Ovechkin and he breaks out.

[Flamesfan2010]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Speaking of overpaying UFAs, THW have an article up that looks at some available UFA forwards that they suggest the Flames should pursue. Very underwhelming names here. https://thehockeywriters.com/calgary...n-ufa-targets/

I think Treliving will need to be active on the trade front.

James Neal is not an underwhelming name and adding a guy like Vanek to play on your third line wouldn't be a bad addition either.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan2010

James Neal is not an underwhelming name and adding a guy like Vanek to play on your third line wouldn't be a bad addition either.

I wouldn't mind picking up Rick Nash on a short-term deal as well. Neal or Nash would be a solid addition. I would be a bit surprised if Vegas doesn't re-sign Neal though. Solid Top 9 option.


Also, if Treliving wants to continue the trend of signing one aging player each year, I wouldn't mind Vanek as that guy. However, I would rather give a young player like Mangiapane or Foo that chance.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan2010

James Neal is not an underwhelming name and adding a guy like Vanek to play on your third line wouldn't be a bad addition either.

James Neal will be 31 by the start of the 2018/19 season, and is going to get PAID this summer, as he is one of the top available UFAs. His cap hit now is $5M, so he'll probably get more than that and for at least 4 years. Like most UFA contracts, it has the potential to look horrible almost from the day it is signed. Good chance he'll just re-sign in Vegas as well.

Vanek turned 34 a few months ago. He's a big time pass for me, unless it's at about 1.5M for one year. Even at that, he's never seemed like a player who turns it up when the pressure is on, so for a team that has that problem in spades already, I would likely still pass on him.

[Harry Lime]

On the pre-show for the Arizona game, it was mentioned that the Coyotes were looking to re-sign Raanta and run with a 1a 1b scenario, with Kuemper. It was an Arizona source (maybe their play by play guy?) but I wasn't paying enough attention, other than I found that part interesting.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

On the pre-show for the Arizona game, it was mentioned that the Coyotes were looking to re-sign Raanta and run with a 1a 1b scenario, with Kuemper. It was an Arizona source (maybe their play by play guy?) but I wasn't paying enough attention, other than I found that part interesting.

Their GM has said as much as well, but his asking price may have gone up more than expected. We'll see if Arizona wants to pay him I guess.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Parallex

But IMO not a minor one.

Okay, so let’s split the difference at he’s a medium inconvenience and continue discussing improving the roster. Because, again, he isn’t the reason the team is where they are, and they have plenty of options for improving the roster while he remains a part of it.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Parallex

You did one of three things I said (and if we're assuming the cap is going up that much say 7ish for Tkachuk). Which is better then nothing but still...

With the expensive UFA addition, barring any major trades the top 9 forwards for the Flames are basically set next season. I'm not going to swap out any of the bottom 3 guys with specific "quality depth" players because that is entirely subjective.

Safe to say though that with $5 million in cap space that could be done easily enough, especially considering you are replacing a player who is already counting against the cap. Add a $2 million quality depth player and replace a 4th liner making $750k already, you are only adding $1.25 million to the cap total.

As for re-signing Tkachuk the following year, not a problem that I can see. There are plenty of ways to make up the cap space to extend him IF the cap doesn't go up enough again all by itself. Like the previously mentioned Brouwer buy out and/or the trading of an expensive Dman who would then be replaced by a younger cheaper up and coming Dman.

[dammage79]

Steinberg thinks the Flames are going to push hard for Tavares. I mean logically all 31 teams will try for him.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Steinberg thinks the Flames are going to push hard for Tavares. I mean logically all 31 teams will try for him.

If this happens I will literally

[dammage79]

I just don't see it. But hey, whatever makes the team better.

I feel like JVR is more a likely target.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I just don't see it. But hey, whatever makes the team better.

I feel like JVR is more a likely target.

Doesn't JVR have Calgary on his no trade list? I can't remember where I read that.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Steinberg thinks the Flames are going to push hard for Tavares. I mean logically all 31 teams will try for him.

Let me take a look here....

Trade 1:

To NYI:
2019 1st round pick (conditional on JT signing)
Micheal Ferland

To CGY:
Negotiation rights to John Tavares

John Tavares signs 8 years, 92M (11.5M per)

Ahem...

Buyout Troy Brouwer.

Trade 2:
To TOR: Dougie Hamilton
To CGY: William Nylander (8 years, 6.75M)

(Toronto rumoured to be willing to pay a steep price for a top pairing RHD)

Trade 3:
To OTT: Michael Stone
To CGY: 2019 5th round pick, 2020 6th round pick

Extend Matthew Tkachuk (8 years, 6.75M per)

Gaudreau (6.75) - Monahan (6.375) - Nylander (6.75)
Bennett (1.95)- Tavares (11.5) - Foo (.925)
Tkachuk (.925) - Backlund (5.35) - Frolik (4.3)
Dube (.793) - Jankowski (1.95) - Lazar (.950)
Shore (.800)

Giordano (6.75) - Brodie (4.65)
Valimaki (.925) - Hamonic (3.857)
Kulak (.950) - Andersson (.756)
Wotherspoon

Smith (4.25)
Gillies (.900)

Total Team Cap-Hit (w/ buyouts): $75,460,043


Yeah, that'd be fun.

[theslymonkey]

So you want to trade Dougie?
AND you want to but Brodie against even tougher lines?

NOPE!!!

[CGY12]

Signing JVR would be a mistake. He is having excellent season but he is not the type of player that would fit well on the current roster. The Flames need to focus on increasing the speed up front, JVR lacks in this department. Living in Toronto, I see a lot of him and he is no doubt having an excellent season but he is surrounded by players who have above average speed and create chaos for defenders which allows him to do his thing in front of the net. The Flames don't have that.

Number 1 priority is addressing the speed issue up front. I think BT needs to focus on that above anything else, till he does, bringing in slower fleeted foot players who are good around the net won't have the impact expected.