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Old 03-30-2018, 02:43 PM   #21
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The event organizer is getting absolutely slaughtered on the FB event page she set up to organize the protest.
I made the mistake of going to her facebook page. She is like the worst of Veganism concentrate.

Arrogant, preachy, she loves going around and chalking up sidewalks and building walls with her views.

I am so all about free speech, and she absolutely has the right to be annoying and self righteous and all of that stuff, and I fully support all the people that are going to her page and making jokes at her expense.
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Personally next time I go to Toronto, I'm booking a window seat at Antlers so that I can enjoy my meat while watching and mocking the protesters, then I'm going to tip large and rip a deer fart on the way past the protesters.

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I'm on Marni's side. Savages.

I think this worked out rather well actually. Crazy vegans get to do their thing and the restaurant owner does his thing. I don't see him as rubbing their noses in it but almost doing what he did as an educational moment. From butchering to preparing to eating. It was a respectful display and not a bunch of neanderthal meat gobbling.

On the other hand when I look through the protest leader's Facebook page, she's cool. I like people who respect animals. I love animals too and definitely don't want to cause unnecessary harm. I'm glad I got to know what these extreme vegans try to jam down your throat. I probably wouldn't have a clue if not for bits of info streaming from the foam of the collective vegan mouth. So kudos to both.

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Old 03-30-2018, 03:31 PM   #24
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I'm on Marni's side. Savages.
I feel like nobody read the article and they just want to get some cracks in at vegans. The restaurant claimed to be ethical but used farmed animals and had foie gras on the menu.
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If a vegan also does crossfit; which do they tell you about first?
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I feel like nobody read the article and they just want to get some cracks in at vegans. The restaurant claimed to be ethical but used farmed animals and had foie gras on the menu.
Awesome, foie gras is delicious.
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I feel like nobody read the article and they just want to get some cracks in at vegans. The restaurant claimed to be ethical but used farmed animals and had foie gras on the menu.
As opposed to what? You can't serve wild animals commercially as far as I know.
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I feel like nobody read the article and they just want to get some cracks in at vegans. The restaurant claimed to be ethical but used farmed animals and had foie gras on the menu.
ah, good. Now we come to the part of the argument where vegans tell me what my morals and ethical principals should be.
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Personally next time I go to Toronto, I'm booking a window seat at Antlers so that I can enjoy my meat while watching and mocking the protesters, then I'm going to tip large and rip a deer fart on the way past the protesters.

Drive by.
Make sure to loudly announce, "wow, you can really taste the innocence! Delicious!" as you leave.

Also, wear this.

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ah, good. Now we come to the part of the argument where vegans tell me what my morals and ethical principals should be.
No, but if the restaurant is going to advertise itself as ethical it deserves to be called out if it's not.
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No, but if the restaurant is going to advertise itself as ethical it deserves to be called out if it's not.
exactly, vegans imposing their personal ethics on others. I believe animals can be farmed in ethical ways, so that restaurant advertising may be very accurate.

According to the article, it was a chalk sign saying 'venison is the new kale' that raised the hackles of the vegan.
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Old 03-30-2018, 04:45 PM   #32
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Well, "ethical" means different things to different people.

I will say that notwithstanding my earlier jokes, there is a reasonable place to stand in trying to get people to think about how meat gets onto their plates. It's generally terrible. It seems like most people, if confronted with what factory farming actually entails, would agree that it's immoral or cruel. But most people also simply don't want to think about it. Hell, I know I should definitely make more of an effort to buy humanely raised animal products.
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Apparently this was the guy taking the video (according to reddit). His channel:





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As a person that follows a vegan diet - these activists are embarrassing
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Are there any restaurants in Alberta specializing in wild game like this place seems to be?

I remember having Deer and Moose a long time ago and I want to have it again.
Generally, game meats in restaurants are farmed and go through the inspection process. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life...ticle29673827/
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In Northern Canada, game such as reindeer and musk ox is regularly sold in stores and restaurants. But the rest of the country often treats wild game as if it were poison instead of food. The "game" found on Canadian restaurant menus almost always refers to farm-raised animals, including venison, rabbit and "wild" boar, which is wild only in name.

In New Brunswick, it is an offence for any restaurateur to serve wildlife. Manitoba prohibits wild game in restaurants, as well as the bartering, trading or selling of it. Restaurants in Nova Scotia can only serve it to guests who hunted it legally and brought it in themselves. In Ontario and Alberta, chefs are permitted to serve hunted game at non-profit charity dinners only, which ostensibly dissuades overharvesting. British Columbia allows for the possibility of wild game in restaurants, but according to the Ministry of Forests, Lands and Natural Resource Operations, this rarely, if ever, happens.

Chef Michael Hunter of Antler in Toronto was mesmerized when he first tasted wild turkey in his early 20s. The fat was vibrant yellow and the breast meat was bold red, redolent of grass and nuts. It was unlike any turkey he had ever tasted. "It was an a-ha moment," he says. "Like, this is the real thing, not this supermarket crap that we're led to believe is the real thing."
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For him, hunting is infinitely less barbaric than the nightmarish world of factory farming, in which animals are cooped up, inundated with antibiotics or force-fed. The way he sees it, hunting laws are strict enough to promote conservation. Prohibiting wild game in restaurants, he says, is redundant.
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Bill Mauro, Ontario's Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry, says the purpose of Ontario's strict regulations is twofold. First of all, "the prohibitions on allowing it in restaurants are there and intended to prevent depletion of species," he says. The second reason is to prevent health hazards – such as intestinal parasites – that could lurk within uninspected meat.

Keith Warriner, a professor of food safety at the University of Guelph, says health concerns are valid – if the meat is undercooked. Wild animals are exposed to a higher variety of pathogens – tuberculosis, giardia, E. coli and salmonella are all of concern – from the simple fact that they are free to roam. Many of those pathogens are undetectable from a surface inspection, says Warriner, but "there's nothing there that will survive the cooking process."
Sounds like if you are able to get wild venison steak best not to have it rare.
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Should Vegans be served with White or Red Wine. I just want to start planning for the apocalypse.
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I feel like nobody read the article and they just want to get some cracks in at vegans. The restaurant claimed to be ethical but used farmed animals and had foie gras on the menu.


I’m vegan and just kind of avoid people, unless they’re on the menu. Then my ethics go out the window.


Lol whatever but yeah I am vegan .

It’s like the “free range” chicken scam.

Unless you raise the animal yourself you can probably forget about knowing the truth.

Many vegans seem to despise Lierre Keith, a former vegan.

Her diet was more like a scavenger type diet than a balanced one, from what I’ve heard.

Now she proposes raising your own animals, giving them good lives, and then slaughtering them.


Although I wouldn’t do that, I say she’s doing it the most humane way.

No one’s telling anyone what their principals should be. The defensiveness and rancor is always so amusing to me!!


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If a vegan also does crossfit; which do they tell you about first?


Pfft. The first thing I tell people is that I sing opera.

If we have a meal together they further out the rest, although it can be awkward.

Oops, I was going to stay out of this thread.

Non vegans can be f@@@@ing idiots too.

I was telling someone about a visit to a farm animal sanctuary, emphasizing the intelligence and sensitivity of pigs; how they’re very close to us.

So I heard- speak for yourself. I like bacon so I don’t give a ####e.

These responses are typical. Are they necessary, really?

All I did was say how much I enjoy and appreciate pigs.


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There are atheists who are every bit as unbearable as sanctimonious theists, and there are meat-eaters who are as annoying as the vegans they deride.

I eat meat, but you have to admit it’s a problematic diet, and definitely not as virtuous as some make it out to be.
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I eat meat, but you have to admit it’s a problematic diet, and definitely not as virtuous as some make it out to be.
Virtuous? I don't know anybody who thinks eating (meat) normally is virtuous.

I guess, maybe this guy?

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