CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - KEEP (3rd line)
46 Marek Hrivik - BYE
77 Mark Jankowski - RE-SIGN
23 Sean Monahan - KEEP
25 Nick Shore - RE-SIGN
18 Matt Stajan - BYE
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - TRADE
79 Micheal Ferland - KEEP
13 Johnny Gaudreau - KEEP
15 Tanner Glass - BYE
19 Matthew Tkachuk - KEEP
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - BUYOUT BYE!!!
67 Michael Frolik - TRADE (unless he is max 3rd line)
21 Garnet Hathaway - WHO CARES
20 Curtis Lazar - BYE
8 Chris Stewart - BYE
10 Kris Versteeg - BYE
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - BYE
7 T.J. Brodie - KEEP (Hope a new coach gets him back to where he was)
5 Mark Giordano - TRADE (Good value and by the time team is good Gio will be done)
27 Dougie Hamilton - KEEP
24 Travis Hamonic - KEEP
61 Brett Kulak - KEEP
26 Michael Stone - TRADE
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - KEEP
41 Mike Smith - KEEP
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - FIRE!!!!!
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - FIRE!!!!
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - KEEP
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - FIRE!!!
GM: Brad Treliving - FIRE!
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Everyone wants to keep Gelinas because he scored winning goals in 04 lol
If his name was Tom Smith you guys would want his ass fired to the sun like the rest of them
The guy had a tremendous work ethic on and off the ice during his career, has been a clutch player in the playoffs, played in 4 Stanley Cup finals and has won a cup. I don't think you get rid of a guy like that.
The guy had a tremendous work ethic on and off the ice during his career, has been a clutch player in the playoffs, played in 4 Stanley Cup finals and has won a cup. I don't think you get rid of a guy like that.
So you’re saying he knows a thing or two about winning?
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - KEEP (3rd line)
46 Marek Hrivik - BYE
77 Mark Jankowski - RE-SIGN
23 Sean Monahan - KEEP
25 Nick Shore - RE-SIGN
18 Matt Stajan - BYE
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - TRADE
79 Micheal Ferland - KEEP
13 Johnny Gaudreau - KEEP
15 Tanner Glass - BYE
19 Matthew Tkachuk - KEEP
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - BUYOUT BYE!!!
67 Michael Frolik - TRADE (unless he is max 3rd line)
21 Garnet Hathaway - WHO CARES
20 Curtis Lazar - BYE
8 Chris Stewart - BYE
10 Kris Versteeg - BYE
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - BYE
7 T.J. Brodie - KEEP (Hope a new coach gets him back to where he was)
5 Mark Giordano - TRADE (Good value and by the time team is good Gio will be done)
27 Dougie Hamilton - KEEP
24 Travis Hamonic - KEEP
61 Brett Kulak - KEEP
26 Michael Stone - TRADE
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - KEEP
41 Mike Smith - KEEP
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - FIRE!!!!!
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - FIRE!!!!
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - KEEP
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - FIRE!!!
GM: Brad Treliving - FIRE!
The guy had a tremendous work ethic on and off the ice during his career, has been a clutch player in the playoffs, played in 4 Stanley Cup finals and has won a cup. I don't think you get rid of a guy like that.
Because I'm in favour of keeping Gelinas around I have the mentality of the "old boys club" up north? Is this what you are insinuating?
I think we should keep him around because he knows what it takes to get to the playoffs and he is famous for his work ethic off the ice, which is an asset. Whether you keep him as an assistant or something else, the young guys have and will benefit from his knowledge.
Because I'm in favour of keeping Gelinas around I have the mentality of the "old boys club" up north? Is this what you are insinuating?
I think we should keep him around because he knows what it takes to get to the playoffs and he is famous for his work ethic off the ice, which is an asset. Whether you keep him as an assistant or something else, the young guys have and will benefit from his knowledge.
Its just a joke...your comment was almost word for world what Oilers management have said about all their glory day hires
(So you’re saying he knows a thing or two about winning?)
comment was also poking fun at that
Anyway, yeah maybe he can fit somewhere but the point remains...he gets a pass when the rest of the coaches need police escorts out of town
CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - Keep but take offers
46 Marek Hrivik - BYE
77 Mark Jankowski - RE-SIGN
23 Sean Monahan - KEEP but explore deals
25 Nick Shore - RE-SIGN
18 Matt Stajan - BYE
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - TRADE
79 Micheal Ferland - KEEP but look to move
13 Johnny Gaudreau - KEEP
15 Tanner Glass - BYE
19 Matthew Tkachuk - KEEP
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - BUYOUT BYE!!!
67 Michael Frolik Keep but can be part of a deal
21 Garnet Hathaway - WHO CARES
20 Curtis Lazar - Keep
8 Chris Stewart - BYE
10 Kris Versteeg - BYE
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - BYE
7 T.J. Brodie - KEEP but can move in a deal
5 Mark Giordano - TRADE (Good value and by the time team is good Gio will be done)
27 Dougie Hamilton - KEEP
24 Travis Hamonic - KEEP
61 Brett Kulak - KEEP
26 Michael Stone - Keep
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - KEEP
41 Mike Smith - KEEP
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - FIRE!!!!!
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - FIRE!!!!
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - KEEP
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - FIRE!!!
GM: Brad Treliving - FIRE!
Johnny and Tkachuk are who they should build around. Anybody else can go in the right deal. I'd move big enough pieces that those remaining know that the country club atmosphere is done.
Yeah #### gelinas. Purge the entire coaching staff and start fresh.
Get rid of burke and let tre know he's on thin ice.
Keep Johnny, Sean, Matt, Dougie.
Trade everyone else that can get you substantive value for. I'm ok keeping around guys like lazar and hamonic (low cost, play with heart) but don't go out of our way to hang onto them. If someone is willing to shell out big assets for gio or Backlund we should go for that too but I don't think we're that lucky.
Last edited by Monahammer; 03-22-2018 at 06:24 AM.
I can see the removal of the main coaching staff, but, with respect to the recent posts here, what does Gelinas do?
I think Treliving deserves to be on a very short leash. The failure to address the need for forward scoring really stands out after the Tkachuk injury. And why get Nick Shore, if he’s not worth playing? I wouldn’t trade Bennett. At this stage he’s a solid 3rd to 4th liner energy player, and has potential for significant improvement in scoring. Same with Lazar.
Defense: keepers are Giordano (contract probably makes him untradeable), Hamilton, Hamonic, Brodie. Getting rid of Brodie now would probably be selling when you get the least value for him - he might recover with new coaching staff.
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Last edited by Steve Bozek; 03-22-2018 at 07:33 AM.
I don't get the thing about a former player who did well in the playoffs being a good coach or knowing what it takes to be there. The guy would know what it takes to be there as a player so unless he's playing he's useless. Lots of guys have been to the playoffs as a player and lots of guys have scored big goals in their lives, that doesn't mean they have what it takes to be a good coach.
Mike Babcock only played university hockey, WHL and some hockey in the UK...what the heck does he know about winning in the NHL when he couldn't even make the canucks?!
Gelinas was a good player and I"m sure he's an amazing guy but he's shown that he isn't a good coach...at least not for this team. If they keep him in the organization in some other capacity that's fine but he clearly shouldn't be coaching. It's just not working out.
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Johnny, Tkachuk & Hamilton are the only players I wouldn't trade.
Anyone else could be gone at the right price and many for any price.
Having said that, trading away most of the team without seeing what a new coach can do with them is the wrong move.
Get rid of the obvious dead weight, strengthen the bottom 6 and find a top RW if possible and give that team to a new coach to start next season.
