Should Calgary Bid on the 2026 Olympics

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Halfpipe and slopstyle would very likely be held at COP. Not sure if COP could do moguls.

They have World Cup moguls events at COP.

Moguls, Aerials, Halfpipe and likely Big Air would be at COP.

Ski/SB-Cross and Slopestyle would have to be at Nakiska to have anything good.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

You could put the Skier / Boarder X on any hill basically. Louise would be able to do it really well. Dunno about Nakiska. But why wouldn't you be able to do slopestyle at COP? Seems ideal to me.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

You could put the Skier / Boarder X on any hill basically. Louise would be able to do it really well. Dunno about Nakiska. But why wouldn't you be able to do slopestyle at COP? Seems ideal to me.

Wouldn't be enough space for enough big jumps I don't think. Not that the slopestyle at the Olympics has been managed well, but I can't see them having enough real estate and elevation to work with to make an top level course at COP while also fitting everything else in.

Naskiska has World Cup Skicross events. It can handle it just fine.

[transplant99]

Yeah, the Dome and COP were already in existence before the games were coming to town, though money for the dome was allocated through the COC if I understand correctly.

COP would be used only for sliding events.

The down hill and other alpine events would have to go to Lake Louise or Whistler.

There would absolutely HAVE to be at least one more large arena built....without any money from the Flames at this point because of Nenshi's negotiating prowess.

And the biggest one of all, is a stadium. If one of those isnt included you can just go full stop on the whole thing immediately. McMahon is barely adequate for football games any more. You want something that holds 35-40,000 people for opening and closing ceremonies? Need something new.

The oval has held up very well. It would be fine with some minor upgrades etc.

Where does the curling go though? It was on every single day of Pyeongchang and even 2 days before it officially started.

Then you can start on the roads and LRT and all the associated infrastructure costs along with whatever the security bill would be....and you just know that the final numbers will literally be BILLIONS over the current estimate. Maybe they should just do like Notley and borrow 15 Billion, build whatever they want and worry about how to pay it back some other time?

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by transplant99

COP would be used only for sliding events.

Sliding
Moguls
Halfpipe
Big Air
Curling could go in the Markin MacPhail Centre.

[Shazam]

Curling would have to happen in Calgary, Banff and Canmore. There was an insane amount of curling going on at Pyeongyang. So many teams.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeah, the Dome and COP were already in existence before the games were coming to town, though money for the dome was allocated through the COC if I understand correctly.

COP would be used only for sliding events.

The down hill and other alpine events would have to go to Lake Louise or Whistler.

There would absolutely HAVE to be at least one more large arena built....without any money from the Flames at this point because of Nenshi's negotiating prowess.

And the biggest one of all, is a stadium. If one of those isnt included you can just go full stop on the whole thing immediately. McMahon is barely adequate for football games any more. You want something that holds 35-40,000 people for opening and closing ceremonies? Need something new.

The oval has held up very well. It would be fine with some minor upgrades etc.

Where does the curling go though? It was on every single day of Pyeongchang and even 2 days before it officially started.

Then you can start on the roads and LRT and all the associated infrastructure costs along with whatever the security bill would be....and you just know that the final numbers will literally be BILLIONS over the current estimate. Maybe they should just do like Notley and borrow 15 Billion, build whatever they want and worry about how to pay it back some other time?

In the last Olympics we had two ice surfaces the Corral and the Dome, both of which were here before the Olympics.

The Corral is going to be gone, we can't pack all the ice events into the dome, and Max Bell is way to small.

So yeah, if Calgary wants the prestige events, we're going to need two ice surfaces. In theory, you keep the dome and build another one.

McMahon is inadequate, not just as a facility but in terms of hosting the number of broadcasting requirements.

Outside of ski events, and the Olympic oval, there is going to be a requirement for facilities construction.

in terms of transportation and roadways, this is a much bigger event then the 1988 games so transportation public and private, lodging and all that is going to be updated.

I think the honest thing is for City Council to come out with a comprehensive plan and bid price and disclose what the various governments and the IOC will give and make it a part of the next election.

I just don't really trust the ability of this city to do a budget game.

[Fuzz]

I believe the plan for curling was to put it in our new fieldhouse.

The single line in the city information about the field house titles it a “field house (+ ice plant)” and previous work by the Calgary Bid Exploration Committee has said a Foothills field house would be used for curling and wheelchair events during a potential 2026 Olympics.

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...lympic-figures

The only ski event that would need to be at Lake Louise is the downhill, all others could run at Nakiska or COP. And from the sounds of things, it is likely Parks will allow that, with buses used for all transport. Athletes, media, spectators, all with buses. Word is, Lake Louise is banking on some Olympic money to fund their expansion plan.

[CPK80]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeah, the Dome and COP were already in existence before the games were coming to town, though money for the dome was allocated through the COC if I understand correctly.

COP would be used only for sliding events.

The down hill and other alpine events would have to go to Lake Louise or Whistler.

There would absolutely HAVE to be at least one more large arena built....without any money from the Flames at this point because of Nenshi's negotiating prowess.

And the biggest one of all, is a stadium. If one of those isnt included you can just go full stop on the whole thing immediately. McMahon is barely adequate for football games any more. You want something that holds 35-40,000 people for opening and closing ceremonies? Need something new.

The oval has held up very well. It would be fine with some minor upgrades etc.

Where does the curling go though? It was on every single day of Pyeongchang and even 2 days before it officially started.

Then you can start on the roads and LRT and all the associated infrastructure costs along with whatever the security bill would be....and you just know that the final numbers will literally be BILLIONS over the current estimate. Maybe they should just do like Notley and borrow 15 Billion, build whatever they want and worry about how to pay it back some other time?

Curling could go to Winsport or the Corral(https://www.winsport.ca/winsportarena/#/view/ID394)

They have also talked about holding the ceremonies at the Grandstand which sits about 17,000 but lots of room for temporary seating.

And on the Arena... There is no way the Flames allow a new arena to be built with out there involvement. If during this process an arena was announced they would be first in line offering the money that they have in the past. Because what is being argued is the City contribution... The City wants either rent or property tax to recoup their investment. If the Federal and Provincial Governments cover that cost, it removes the biggest sticking point.

[surferguy]

Originally Posted by pylon

Yup.

The hypocrisy is hilarious.

Maybe he should talk to the IOC like he does the Flames and tell them their business model is ‘half baked’ and “if you want Olympics here you can pay for half.” All while continuing to publicly skewer them in the media.

The one thing I have respected in the Flames/City building debate, is the team took the high road, and just said. “We don’t want to talk about this anymore.” While petulant baby Nenshi has been the one slinging the insults and drive by’s at the team.

I want the plebiscite to read this:

If given the choice between spending 4 billion dollars on the Olympics or 600 million for a new NHL arena and concert venue would you prefer:

A) Olympics
B) NHL Arena


I would almost wager my life 70% or more people would prefer 30 more years of NHL, than 20 days of mixed curling. But, because Mr. Nenshi is so smitten with these amateur athletes, he assumes, in his little narcissistic world, that everyone must or at least should feel the same way.

Did Nenshi personally spill a Diet Coke in your car?

[flames_fan_down_under]

When it was here in Vancouver it was some of the most memorable experiences in my life. Just so much fun. I think the city did a great job of re-purposing facilities after the Olympics, the curling arena is now a brand new community centre, the Oval in Richmond is a beautiful multi sports and fitness centre, the upgrades to the UBC hockey Arena has not gone to waste, the Canada Line is an essential piece of infrastructure. I voted yes because I think Calgary would do an incredible job of hosting.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

Sliding
Moguls
Halfpipe
Big Air
Curling could go in the Markin MacPhail Centre.

Think COP could handle that with spectators? I didnt think it could, though admittedly thats just from my looking at things. Moguls and big air maybe...but again room for those who want to attend?

And no MacPhail wouldn't work for curling as it is set up currently. No where near enough seating. Perhaps the IOC doesnt really care about that though?

There are lots of curling clubs in Calgary that could handle them as well, but again with very limited seating.

[Northendzone]

Originally Posted by Red

Because we want more or better for this growing city? What a radical idea.

- is there a sustainable public demand for more bobsleigh and skeleton runs?
- is the Olympic oval speed skating track being used at capacity?
- as for the Nordic center, I like biking there in the summer; however, even when the parking lot there is busy, you can still find lots of open space on the trails - so does that really need to be expanded?
- even COP itself, is it being used to capacity? I know the parking lot near the rinks are busy on the weekends & evenings - but is the rest of the facility being used to capacity? the ski tower is now practically useless from a world cup point of view and there is not a huge public demand to go ski jumping on a Saturday afternoon

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Think COP could handle that with spectators? I didnt think it could, though admittedly thats just from my looking at things. Moguls and big air maybe...but again room for those who want to attend?

There is no way halfpipe could be done at COP. COP is tiny. My 9 year old skis from the top for crying out loud.

Maybe moguls at best.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CPK80

Curling could go to Winsport or the Corral(https://www.winsport.ca/winsportarena/#/view/ID394)

They have also talked about holding the ceremonies at the Grandstand which sits about 17,000 but lots of room for temporary seating.

And on the Arena... There is no way the Flames allow a new arena to be built with out there involvement. If during this process an arena was announced they would be first in line offering the money that they have in the past. Because what is being argued is the City contribution... The City wants either rent or property tax to recoup their investment. If the Federal and Provincial Governments cover that cost, it removes the biggest sticking point.

Why in the world would they do that? Why spend money when they dont have to?

Let the governments finance it, and when it is complete and they are looking for an anchor tenant? Then they will be happy to chat about a lease....at a very very team friendly price of course.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Shazam

There is no way halfpipe could be done at COP. COP is tiny. My 9 year old skis from the top for crying out loud.

Maybe moguls at best.

I assumed the same but not entirely sure.

If that is indeed the case though, again COP will be good enough for the sliding events and thats about it.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I assumed the same but not entirely sure.

If that is indeed the case though, again COP will be good enough for the sliding events and thats about it.

Doesn't COP make a full size half pipe every year?

If they remove the ski jumps they open a lot of space for aerials and moguls.

[CPK80]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Why in the world would they do that? Why spend money when they dont have to?

Let the governments finance it, and when it is complete and they are looking for an anchor tenant? Then they will be happy to chat about a lease....at a very very team friendly price of course.

Or the City could contract it out to a 3rd party to operate who can use it for concerts/e-sports/other events and charge more then the $1 that they charge the flames now for the Saddledome.

Chris

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I assumed the same but not entirely sure.

If that is indeed the case though, again COP will be good enough for the sliding events and thats about it.

They'd have to make brand new tracks. Not sure there's enough hill. The ones there are considered beginner now.

[Red]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

- is there a sustainable public demand for more bobsleigh and skeleton runs?
- is the Olympic oval speed skating track being used at capacity?
- as for the Nordic center, I like biking there in the summer; however, even when the parking lot there is busy, you can still find lots of open space on the trails - so does that really need to be expanded?
- even COP itself, is it being used to capacity? I know the parking lot near the rinks are busy on the weekends & evenings - but is the rest of the facility being used to capacity? the ski tower is now practically useless from a world cup point of view and there is not a huge public demand to go ski jumping on a Saturday afternoon

I have two teens at home. Everywhere we go there is a ton of people and lineups. Sure, we don't need a skeleton run or bobsleigh one. But there is so much more to it than that.
Point being, without 88 olympics we wouldn't have most of these facilities. Who knows how we can re-purpose whatever we need to build? All I know is that if you have to be bused in to Sunshine or can't park at COP there is an obvious demand for winter sport facilities. It really is that busy.

Plus, the Flames would get a new arena out of it and maybe the Stamps would get something out of it too. We can argue how or who pays until we are blue in the face, but no way a new stadium is not up for 2026.