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View Poll Results: Should Calgary Bid on the 2026 Olympics
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Yes
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No
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Determine by plebiscite
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03-21-2018, 12:46 PM
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#141
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
The IOC is a non-profit, and has no owners or shareholders, so that's not correct.
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Semantics. The IOC is enriching themselves from the olympics, you'd have to be about 20 different kinds of naive to believe otherwise. Corporate sponsorships and broadcast contracts are in the billions. Here's an illustration of their HQ in Lusanne Switzerland, doesn't seem like a quaint non-profit operation.
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03-21-2018, 12:53 PM
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#142
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Sliver
The Flames matter to Flames fans - the majority of Calgarians don't give a single fata about them, myself included.
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Totally OT, but how did you find this forum?
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03-21-2018, 12:55 PM
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#143
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
Semantics. The IOC is enriching themselves from the olympics, you'd have to be about 20 different kinds of naive to believe otherwise. Corporate sponsorships and broadcast contracts are in the billions. Here's an illustration of their HQ in Lusanne Switzerland, doesn't seem like a quaint non-profit operation.
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People don't understand what revenue, profit and expenses mean.
My company makes a million dollars in revenue.
I pay myself a million dollars from the company. The company's profit is zero.
Boom, a non-profit.
#winning
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03-21-2018, 12:58 PM
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#144
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: May 2008
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If you can't turn a profit, the easy answer is no.
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03-21-2018, 01:11 PM
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#145
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Red
Just adding for context. The Dome, COP, Nakiska, Nordic Centre, Olympic oval etc were all built for the Olympics. We lose that bid and likely we don't have most of them here. Some may not like these facilities, but overall I think they made a lot of people happy over the last 30 years and will continue to do so.
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since we now have those things, why would we need to go and spend billions more to get another Olympics here?
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03-21-2018, 01:12 PM
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#146
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by Northendzone
since we now have those things, why would we need to go and spend billions more to get another Olympics here?
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Why buy one when you can have two for three times the price?
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03-21-2018, 01:15 PM
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#147
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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The Flames not being presented with a new arena isn't going to cause Calgarians to leave the city. A Winter Olympics will actually bring people to Calgary and showcase it to people who might not know about how great the city is and its proximity to awesome skiing and the mountains.
I think the failures of the other Winter Olympics have been that they are mostly in places that have no use for the amenities and infrastructure built up for them. Who the hell is going to Soichi again or Pyeongchang for training? Calgary and Vancouver are ideal places because we the Olympic oval, COP, the Canmore Nordic Centre are still well used to this day.
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03-21-2018, 01:17 PM
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#148
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Northendzone
since we now have those things, why would we need to go and spend billions more to get another Olympics here?
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Because we want more or better for this growing city? What a radical idea. 
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03-21-2018, 01:19 PM
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#149
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evil of fart
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Totally OT, but how did you find this forum?
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One of my friends told me about it. I just stay in the off topic forum.
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03-21-2018, 01:20 PM
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#150
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Originally Posted by Red
Because we want more or better for this growing city? What a radical idea. |
I hear the luge wait time at COP can be for hours.
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03-21-2018, 01:22 PM
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#151
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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I have great memories of the 88 Olympics and having a repeat would be fantastic. However I reluctantly voted no since the Olympics is a whole different thing now and the financial risk just seems too high. If there was a reasonable assurance of cost control I'd change my vote.
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03-21-2018, 01:35 PM
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#153
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by Red
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Do you even understand the thing that you linked?
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03-21-2018, 01:40 PM
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#154
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Shazam
Do you even understand the thing that you linked?
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Why, do you need it translated? COP is very busy and profitable place used by public and athletes and I would welcome its expansion. My kids go there all the time, summer and winter.
Not sure what's your deal that you need to resort to drive byes. You have a point? State it or move on.
So sick of trolls on this board.
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03-21-2018, 01:52 PM
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#155
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by Red
Why, do you need it translated? COP is very busy and profitable place used by public and athletes and I would welcome its expansion. My kids go there all the time, summer and winter.
Not sure what's your deal that you need to resort to drive byes. You have a point? State it or move on.
So sick of trolls on this board.
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So you don't actually know what you linked to.
They lost money in 2015. They lost a lot of money. Thank jebus for the endowment fund, because that saved their bacon.
So sick of trolls on this board.
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03-21-2018, 01:56 PM
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#156
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Red
Why, do you need it translated? COP is very busy and profitable place used by public and athletes and I would welcome its expansion. My kids go there all the time, summer and winter.
Not sure what's your deal that you need to resort to drive byes. You have a point? State it or move on.
So sick of trolls on this board.
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From the sounds of things, COP would not see some huge expansion and the skiing events would all be held out of town. The hill is nowhere near Olympic level and the jumps are out of spec and can’t be brought to spec where they are. Not to mention there doesn’t seem to be any room left to expand.
My opposition isn’t Nenshi hate, it’s the desire to see proof of the benefits. People are touting the huge benefits, but I haven’t seen any numbers presented, which considering we have done this once, we should be able to show.
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03-21-2018, 01:59 PM
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#157
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
From the sounds of things, COP would not see some huge expansion and the skiing events would all be held out of town. The hill is nowhere near Olympic level and the jumps are out of spec and can’t be brought to spec where they are. Not to mention there doesn’t seem to be any room left to expand.
My opposition isn’t Nenshi hate, it’s the desire to see proof of the benefits. People are touting the huge benefits, but I haven’t seen any numbers presented, which considering we have done this once, we should be able to show.
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I remember reading a few days back that the ski jumping couldn't be used unless we were willing to have jumpers landing in the middle of the highway, which would probably increase ticket sales and tv ratings.
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03-21-2018, 02:00 PM
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#158
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Halfpipe and slopstyle would very likely be held at COP. Not sure if COP could do moguls.
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03-21-2018, 02:01 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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True that. You have nothing to be vain about.
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03-21-2018, 02:01 PM
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#160
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Originally Posted by nfotiu
The olympics are a non-profit and the vast majority of athletes competing are not wealthy by any standards.
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Most winter sports today simply aren't affordable to average people. Not competing at the elite level, where you need to start early in childhood with lessons, training, and travel that runs to many thousands of dollars a year. You really think a family with a household income of $70K can afford to send their 10-year-old to speedskating at $4k a year, or pay for a private snowboarding coach for their 14-year-old? The ski academies elite kids attend starting in junior high run $15k a year just for tuition. Training and touring as an up-and-coming figure skater will run you $40k a year.
It Can Take a Mountain of Money to Raise a Winter Olympian
Elite-level sports, especially winter sports, have become the purview of the affluent and upper middle class. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd bet the median household income of the parents of competitors in the PyeongChang Games was around the 85th percentile for their countries.
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