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Old 03-01-2018, 11:32 PM   #361
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^There is only 1 team worse, NYI.
The others have not existed the entire sample size, so can't really say they are worse.
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Old 03-02-2018, 12:13 AM   #362
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Isn't this phrase a bit derogatory these days?
You're joking, right??
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:03 AM   #363
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^There is only 1 team worse, NYI.
The others have not existed the entire sample size, so can't really say they are worse.
Winnipeg/Arizona has been around since 1979. Got past round one three times (one of those years winning two rounds).

I'm also prepared to say that a team that has only made the POs twice in its history (since 1999) and never got out of the first round (namely Atlanta/Winnipeg) has a worse record.

The Panthers are a funny team - only in the POs 5 times in 24 years, and made it past round one once. But that one time they went to the finals, which was only their third year of existence. With about as nondescript a team as you could imagine (led by Scott Mellanby and Rob Neidermayer?!?)

The Canes are funny too. Made the POs only 5 times, but went deep three times - third round once, lost in the finals once and once winning the Cup (with an asterix - they only had to play the Oilers).
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Old 03-02-2018, 09:52 AM   #364
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The Panthers are a funny team - only in the POs 5 times in 24 years, and made it past round one once. But that one time they went to the finals, which was only their third year of existence. With about as nondescript a team as you could imagine (led by Scott Mellanby and Rob Neidermayer?!?).
* Rhett Warrener
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Old 03-02-2018, 10:15 AM   #365
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You're joking, right??
He probably isn't. Around Lethbridge where we have a large indigenous population due to the proximity of two Reserves, using the word "natives" is becoming frowned upon.
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Old 03-02-2018, 02:07 PM   #366
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* Rhett Warrener
Yeah, I know. Warrener was a rookie, only played 28 games. Jovanoski was a rookie as well, he's probably the guy who went on to the best career. They had Vanbiesbrouk, though he had a pretty sub par save% that year he must have been good.

There's a bunch of guys on that team who were pretty good, but not great. Barnes, Woolley, Dvorak (another rookie), Garpenlov, Lowry, a pretty old Skrudland, Sheppard.
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Old 03-02-2018, 02:16 PM   #367
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The flames have won 4 playoff rounds in 29 years.

The fourth line and bottom pairing have almost always been inadequate.
This is the organization in a nutshell. The Flames are historically a woefully mediocore team to back and fans have every right to questions inadequacies of the bottom lines and pairings.

Some fans continue to chalk another season like this as "unlucky" while other see the reality that the team is actually one to two decent depth players away from having a much better season....let the broken record spin.

What a waste if this doesn't turn-around when you consider the top end talent the team has.
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:54 PM   #368
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Oops I thought I clicked on the Backlund thread.....wait...
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Oops I thought I clicked on the Backlund thread.....wait...
Backlund drafted in 2007 .. 11 years later after 11 playoff games 2 playoff goals 5 pts -4

The Flames decide they want more of the success that Backlund has brought and even though he is now just a few days away from being 29 years old and carrying a -10 and definitely not better than he was last year the Flames give him the last contract of his career locking him up for 1m less than the franchise level players are making.

They had a choice of trading him at the deadline for a late 1st and a prospect.

On the other hand look at St. L. ... Stastny was there for 3 playoffs years (out of 3) and played 33 playoff games 6 goals 17 pts -3.

Was St.L tired of winning and the Flames good with mediocrity ?

everyone was asking who could possibly replace Backlund? Statsny is a 32 year old UFA

I would rather have a 1 st round a prospect that would fit in our top 5 prospects and Statsny on a 2 year 6M deal starting 2018-19
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:44 AM   #370
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You assume that Stastny would sign here for that
He will be in demand
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:50 AM   #371
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I would rather have a 1 st round a prospect that would fit in our top 5 prospects and Statsny on a 2 year 6M deal starting 2018-19
There is zero chance Statsny will sign for 2 years LOL.

He'll get about 6 years at $6M+ from some team.

He'll be a UFA, that means something in the NHL.
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There is zero chance Statsny will sign for 2 years LOL.

He'll get about 6 years at $6M+ from some team.

He'll be a UFA, that means something in the NHL.
The Flames management get stuck with a comparable. Statsny at 32 is probably better than Backlund at 29 for the next 2 years.

If some GM goes Brad Richard's crazy and gives Statsny a 6x6 then Backlund might be a deal.... one that will keep the Flames at the mediocre level the fan base seems to tolerate.
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Old 03-03-2018, 11:32 AM   #373
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The Flames management get stuck with a comparable. Statsny at 32 is probably better than Backlund at 29 for the next 2 years.

If some GM goes Brad Richard's crazy and gives Statsny a 6x6 then Backlund might be a deal.... one that will keep the Flames at the mediocre level the fan base seems to tolerate.
So your plan is to trade Backlund and hope like hell that Stastny signs with the Flames? The season would definitely have been lost with Smith down and Backlund traded. The team has zero centre depth. And that is supposed to be attractive to a free agent? And if Stastny doesn't sign, then what? The Flames need MORE centres, not fewer.
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Old 03-03-2018, 11:37 AM   #374
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Ricardo sounds like that one hilarious muffin calling in to Pat Steinberg - couldn't remember if it was Overtime or The Big Show, but the guy wanted us to trade away Monahan for the off chance to sign Tavares.

Don't be like the Oilers fans too and assume that everyone's gonna be tripping over themselves to sign as a free agent there. I bet Calgary (and Winnipeg, for that matter) are at the very bottom of both players' lists.
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Isn't this phrase a bit derogatory these days?
Open your eyes and small mind and read the multiple definitions for the word native! I suppose you want to change the national anthem as well!
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He probably isn't. Around Lethbridge where we have a large indigenous population due to the proximity of two Reserves, using the word "natives" is becoming frowned upon.
Of course he isn't joking. It is not just the word natives but the context of the saying that is derogatory. Smacks of colonialism.

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Old 03-03-2018, 08:54 PM   #378
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Backlund is a good player...can't put all the Flames struggles on him. Takes a team to win in hockey and he hasn't had very good teams around him
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Backlund drafted in 2007 .. 11 years later after 11 playoff games 2 playoff goals 5 pts -4

The Flames decide they want more of the success that Backlund has brought and even though he is now just a few days away from being 29 years old and carrying a -10 and definitely not better than he was last year the Flames give him the last contract of his career locking him up for 1m less than the franchise level players are making.

They had a choice of trading him at the deadline for a late 1st and a prospect.

On the other hand look at St. L. ... Stastny was there for 3 playoffs years (out of 3) and played 33 playoff games 6 goals 17 pts -3.

Was St.L tired of winning and the Flames good with mediocrity ?

everyone was asking who could possibly replace Backlund? Statsny is a 32 year old UFA

I would rather have a 1 st round a prospect that would fit in our top 5 prospects and Statsny on a 2 year 6M deal starting 2018-19
Okay the Flames are having a bad season, but lets not complain about one of the few good players on the team. How does having a late first and a prospect instead of Backlund make the team better this year or next year?
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Old 03-03-2018, 09:04 PM   #380
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I don't understand some posters. I try to, but I just don't understand.

Just because the Flames have not experienced much success, doesn't mean that EVERYONE that is tied to the organization is part of that lack of success.

IMO, you keep your best players and try to add to them in order to find success. Backlund is one of the best players on this team. He is a player that any Stanley Cup champion team would want on their roster. He plays tough minutes. He has been ELITE at shutting other players down. He has a proven history of making players around him better.

Give your heads a shake if you feel the Flames were better off trading him for a mid-late first rather than signing him.
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