[PGT] Flames fall apart again ... Lose 5-2 to the Avs

[Corral]

No #1 goalie and you can turn the lights out for this year. They will soon find themselves at least 6 points out of the playoff spot. Been waiting to see which team falls back of the pack ... ladies and gentlemen its your Calgary Flames.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

i'm pissing into the wind here obviously, but here goes:



You dress Stewart and glass because you have a handful of players not good enough and you have to play some of them. Glass hasn't played NHL hockey in like 50 games,



You take Bennett off the first line because you need him to be maybe the only halfway decent player on the roster in the bottom 6.



Hathway - Janko - Brouwer, which we saw part of tonight, might be the worst third line in the entire league. I don't know what buffalo's got but it would be tough to get worse than that.



You put Glass in because Lazar took an absolutely brutal interference penalty yesterday that started the momentum slide, and undisciplined play will kill you in the NHL (we saw that tonight).



The Penguins fired Bylsma AFTER LOSING IN THE STANLEYCUP FINAL IN THE PREVIOUS SEASON.



The flames got friggin' swept.



Get some perspective.

What are you talking about? Bylsma was hired in February of ‘09, and won the Stanley Cup. Prior to that, he was coaching in the AHL. My point was that there is a history of firing coaches late in the season.

Also, all the reasons you tried to bring up effectively prove Gully can’t coach worth a damn.

When faced with the option between playing NHL players, and non-NHL players, a good coach would make obvious choice.

[Nabber]

Two super boring games in a row. Really dumb play by Tkachuk in that second period penalty that could have cost the Flames the game. Really need these points. It's only been two games but I don't see Stewart as a winner at this level, doesn't win battles, zero offence or defense, take him out of the lineup. The 4th line of Glass-Stajan-Stewart to me is the worst line in the entire NHL. Get Shore in next game, Lazar, go with them on the 4th line with speed and energy. Not sure who to play with Gaudreau and Monahan, I guess Bennett is the only option.

[meh]

Originally Posted by Robbob

It will not take .700 record. There are so many games between the teams fighting for the playoffs that it will bring down the amount of points needed (unless there are a ton of three point games).

I'm thinking that 700 is about right. A lot of 3 point games right now.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by united

How about young official Jon McIsaac going out of his way to show off to the vet Dan O’Halleran? He was probably shaking in excitement before the game to get the chance to show one of his idols what a good referee he is. That call on Gaudreau was absolutely pathetic and I’m sure Dan O’Halleran was embarrassed to even be on the ice while all that went on - and even worse, young McIsaac couldn’t figure out which players should be in the box so O’Halleran had to go over and help sort it out.

The youngster completely lost his composure trying to make an impression, costing the Flames their best player for the final 12 minutes of the game and will face no repercussion for doing so.

Edit: just noticed the linesmen were Greg Devorski and Shane Heyer. So 5,000 games between three of the officials and the youngster. No wonder he was trying everything he could to get noticed.

Oh.

Oh yeah. He got noticed, all right.

[Samonadreau]

You can blame one thing but it's really a combination of:

1. Undisciplined.
2. Bad reffing
3. Losing the goaltending battle
4. Missing the net
5. Not capatilizing on opportunities - scored 2 goals in the last 2 games. That doesn't cut it.
6. That forward roster isn't going to cut it.
7. Gotta show more composure when there is some adversity.

This isnt even me being pessimistic.... you fix any 2 of those things and we probably win the last 2 games.

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by nik-

He really hasn't. The coach absolutely has to go, but the stacked defense approach Treliving has taken is failing. Our scoring balance is brutal, the bottom six is embarrassing and the defence he's gone all in on isn't even great. Definitely not great enough to overcome the gongshow that is the forward situation.

The Treliving the wizard meme is dead imo.

He should absolutely start being on the hot seat with a new coach in place next season. However I don't think he will be being the entire organization has a serious problem with accepting that their decision making is flawed.

I believe Burke and Treliving will both be in the hot seat next season. This summer is going to be massive.

[Duffalufagus]

Someone make a case for me that our bottom 6 isn’t terrible.

[Ozy_Flame]

That is one hell of a powerplay, and not in the good way lol . . .

[Jbo]

Originally Posted by nik-

He really hasn't. The coach absolutely has to go, but the stacked defense approach Treliving has taken is failing. Our scoring balance is brutal, the bottom six is embarrassing and the defence he's gone all in on isn't even great. Definitely not great enough to overcome the gongshow that is the forward situation.

The Treliving the wizard meme is dead imo.

He should absolutely start being on the hot seat with a new coach in place next season. However I don't think he will be being the entire organization has a serious problem with accepting that their decision making is flawed.

Agree to disagree, I think injuries to Smith and Ferland, coupled with a coach unable to adjust is compounding issues. He has improved us at almost every position but RW

[nik-]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

I believe Burke and Treliving will both be in the hot seat next season. This summer is going to be massive.

Oh you think Ken King is going to go and fire Burke? The lack of organization self awareness starts with him.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

You can blame one thing but it's really a combination of:

1. Undisciplined.
2. Bad reffing
3. Losing the goaltending battle
4. Missing the net
5. Not capatilizong on opportunities - scored 2 goals in the last 2 games. That doesn't cut it.
6. That forward roster isn't going to cut it.
7. Gotta show more composure when there is some adversity.

This is t even me being pessimistic.... you fix any 2 of those things and we probably win the last 2 games.

you are probably right on all of these...especially with the Ferland injury

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Someone make a case for me that our bottom 6 isn’t terrible.

Island of misfit toys

[Ozy_Flame]

I'm trying to figure out why the hell you wouldn't play Lazar tonight when Colorado has a young, speedy team.

Also, we need Mike Smith back. Pronto. He gives the boys confidence.

[The Boy Wonder]

I used to be a GG supporter and thought that he wasn’t so bad and that it couldn’t possibly get worse but this Eason has shown me one thing and that is that the players are being forced into a system where they have to think too much about positioning or who to cover or where they should skate to. And at a certain point they can’t just concentrate on playing hockey.

Overthinking is the reason we see them delay for a split second over a good shooting opportunity on the pp and in the nhl that split second is what wins or loses you games.

GG has to go. And it should happen now. Bring DARYL back for the last 18 games as interim coach and find a replacement this summer

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by nik-

Oh you think Ken King is going to go and fire Burke? The lack of organization self awareness starts with him.

Think Burke steps down if next season is a mess.

[JJFlash]

Is it bad to turn off the TV when the Avs scored their third goal hoping to check the ticker later to see the Flames came back to win. Other teams seem to find a way but we have consistently fallen short when we need to push. Seeing that the Flames never scored again after conceding 3 straight goals should not surprise me. I am at peace with who the Flames are...disappointed but at peace.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Someone make a case for me that our bottom 6 isn’t terrible.

Bottom six certainly didn't cost them the game...sure it could be better

[RoughRiderRowdy]

This team is 1-3 goal scorers away from being a contender

[H2SO4(aq)]

Flames refused to have a post game interview with the fan960, needless to say that locker room is having it out right now. Good