[PGT] Flames lose 2-0 to Stars

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by DropIt

Won the goalie battle against our backup... we also spent on a starting goalie who has won tonnes of goalie battles this season prior to his injury.

Weird comparison

It wasn’t a crack against the Flames. Bishop played great, that’s why Dallas got him. Flames won everything but the goalie battle tonight and there’s not much more to glean from this game.

[midniteowl]

Bishop was hot tonight, sizzling hot. I don't believe the Sharks with Kane can beat tonight's Bishop.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Mike F

I like the personnel on the PP (finally), but they still have no one-timers. By the time players have taken a pass and readjusted to shoot, the PKers are in the shooting lanes.

Still too fixated on "righties play on the right, lefties on the left".

Agreed. Players hesitate when they get the puck off the pass.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Karl

Who was the worst forward tonight in your opinion?

Hathaway? Lazar? What did they do other than take dumb penalties

Stewart at least made some nice plays, had a couple shots ect.

He also hasn't even practiced with the team and surely has some stuff to learn. Most of our team took how many months to learn the system. I think some people were just looking hard for his faults tonight. He is also NOT SLOW

[belsarius]

I get the Stewart try on the first line. The Flames are lacking depth scoring and the couple games got Bennett some confidence and give him back to Jankowski, his normal spot. Stewart plays a similar heavy game to Ferland and has a pretty good shot so he would make a good fillin for Ferland while he is out. Gulutzan gave it two periods and when he needed to pick up the offense in the third he put Bennett back there. 2 goal deficit isn’t a time to panic and change the whole game plan, but they ran into a hot goalie.

I wasn’t impressed with Stewart but I understand the thought process of not disrupting your pairs. GG adjusted when it wasn’t working. Bishop beat our third stringer, can’t complain about the effort. Forget it and move on to the next one.

Really happy to see the emotion from Gulutzan at the refs too. Another terrible night from them trying to control the flow of the game.

[djsFlames]

.500 hockey just isn't going to cut it at this point, as good as the effort may be.

Don't care how you do it, but you have to find a way. A borderline interference play to poke the puck over the line? Whatever. Sometimes you have to will things in your favor.

I was 100% certain the Kings were losing in regulation against the Knights yesterday and they stole 2 points sheerly out of willpower and some clutch execution. Would like to see the Flames do the same. They may very well have to at a couple points down this stretch if they want to see more than 82 games. It's do or die now. So I guess it's up to the guys on that bench. I don't expect any inspirational GG speeches or savvy/helpful tactics from him.

It may be smart of Gio to wear the pants for the coaches here and motivate his team behind closed doors if they don't start getting the needed results in short order.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Ill eat my pubes if we get shut out

Not a total loss tonight, we still have this

[midniteowl]

Don't team practice 5 on 3? I mean they don't seem to have any set play, the player with the puck has to think a second or 2 before he figure out who to pass to. That's why the pk'ers can easily get in the lane. It's frustrating to watch.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

.500 hockey just isn't going to cut it at this point, as good as the effort may be.

Don't care how you do it, but you have to find a way. A borderline interference play to poke the puck over the line? Whatever. Sometimes you have to will things in your favor.

I was 100% certain the Kings were losing in regulation against the Knights yesterday and they stole 2 points sheerly out of willpower and some clutch execution. Would like to see the Flames do the same. They may very well have to at a couple points down this stretch if they want to see more than 82 games. It's do or die now. So I guess it's up to the guys on that bench. I don't expect any inspirational GG speeches or savvy/helpful tactics from him.

It may be smart of Gio to wear the pants for the coaches here and motivate his team behind closed doors if they don't start getting the needed results in short order.

all true but they aren't gonna run the table, neither are the rest of the teams in the race...the willpower/clutch Kings had an 11 point lead on the Flames at the start of 2018

Bring the this effort+ tomorrow night and pick up the two points

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Don't team practice 5 on 3? I mean they don't seem to have any set play, the player with the puck has to think a second or 2 before he figure out who to pass to. That's why the pk'ers can easily get in the lane. It's frustrating to watch.

They scored after a quick whistle and hit a crossbar on a wide open chance...they certainly had the looks this game

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

So everyone who thought this whole experiment of moving Bennett off the first line was wrong...

Probably a different game if he’s up on the top line generating chances like they were all third period.

Missed opportunity.

And it comes down to poor coaching and a decision to break up the chemistry that Bennett Johnny and monny had going to test a waiver wire acquisition

Great ####ing coaching dip####

Boy-crush on Bennett?

[Kovaz]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Hathaway? Lazar? What did they do other than take dumb penalties

Stewart at least made some nice plays, had a couple shots ect.

He also hasn't even practiced with the team and surely has some stuff to learn. Most of our team took how many months to learn the system. I think some people were just looking hard for his faults tonight. He is also NOT SLOW

I'm not sure we watched the same game. Stewart only attempted a single shot, and it was after he was moved to Backlund's line. He had the one good pass to Monahan, which was the only play he made that I'd categorize as good. He also fumbled a number of passes and passed into defenders' skates. His forechecking was essentially useless - he played the body but also stopped dead and made no attempt to get his stick on the puck, so Dallas easily moved the puck around him and broke out whenever he was the first forechecker. And defensively he struggled to get the puck out and had a handful of plays where he was just coasting with no attempt to cover anyone, including the first Dallas goal (Monahan did the same thing on that one, to be fair).

Gaudreau and Monahan spent the majority of the first 40 in their own zone, and the majority of the 3rd in Dallas's zone, and Stewart definitely played a part in that.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

Stewart finished the night -8 in shot attempts while every other forward was at least even. Gaudreau and Monahan were -10 through 40 then +10 in the 3rd playing with Bennett to finish even.

Wow, that's pretty gross. I get that it might take awhile to develop chemistry but I don't think we have the luxury of experimenting and giving up points, especially within the conference.

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

I'm not sure we watched the same game. Stewart only attempted a single shot, and it was after he was moved to Backlund's line. He had the one good pass to Monahan, which was the only play he made that I'd categorize as good. He also fumbled a number of passes and passed into defenders' skates. His forechecking was essentially useless - he played the body but also stopped dead and made no attempt to get his stick on the puck, so Dallas easily moved the puck around him and broke out whenever he was the first forechecker. And defensively he struggled to get the puck out and had a handful of plays where he was just coasting with no attempt to cover anyone, including the first Dallas goal (Monahan did the same thing on that one, to be fair).

Gaudreau and Monahan spent the majority of the first 40 in their own zone, and the majority of the 3rd in Dallas's zone, and Stewart definitely played a part in that.

I have no idea what these people were watching tonight, he was brutal.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Ehlers and nylander have both benefited by playing with other high end skill players. Young Offensive players need quality linemates to generate and build confidence.

I disagree. Nylander and Ehlers are drivers in play like Gaudreau whereas Bennett is a support player. That’s why people are always shouting to play Bennett with Gaudreau. If Bennett could drive play at the same level, he’d be able to generate scoring chances and goals by himself and for his linemates. After all, that’s why we picked him 4th overall.

[dino7c]

The same few people keep saying how bad Stewart was...trying to justify their meltdowns earlier today

He wasn't great...certainly wasn't the worst forward and not why they lost the game. Personally I would play him in the bottom six moving forward.

What forward was great this game? no goals no points...a bunch of stupid penalties

[Corral]

Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

I have no idea what these people were watching tonight, he was brutal.

Dude was a waiver pick up. What do people expect. Someone said it best elsewhere ... the fact he even gets a shift on our first line tells you all you need to know about this year's roster. Maybe squeak into the playoffs, and get schooled by Nashville, Winnipeg or Vegas. On to next year.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by corral

dude was a waiver pick up. What do people expect. Someone said it best elsewhere ... the fact he even gets a shift on our first line tells you all you need to know about this year's coach. maybe squeak into the playoffs, and get schooled by nashville, winnipeg or vegas. On to next year.

fyp

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Do you remember him dancing through Ian Cole as if he wasn't even there?

Or when he got Duchene tangled silly in behind the net?

Bennett is very capable of skilled plays, probably 3rd best on the team. He really doesn't show it very consistently though.

Yes he’s scored a couple fantastic goals. But it’s not like these are plays he creates on a regular basis. It might happen once a year if maybe whereas any time I watch Nylander or Ehlers, they’re creating plays on a nightly basis. These guys are Gaudreau-lite, they can carry lines by themselves and drive play and don’t need a Gaudreau to make them dangerous.

[dino7c]

Stewart or Bennett for that matter only get a shot on the first line due to injury

healthy lineup they are both bottom six