[News Roundup] Treliving and the trade deadline

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by btimbit

As disappointing as it is to see the Flames not add a big piece, given the prices I'm happy they stood their ground.

Still want Hoffman. Hope they can do something in the summer.

Would like to see how the team does with a different coach before any big "win now" deadline deals as well

Yeah, I think this could be done with Stone going that way. Not sure they wanted to deplete the defensive depth at this time of year.

[Ozy_Flame]

After almost 24 hours to reflect, I think Treliving did a fantastic job. Our team has proven the ability to win, albeit inconsistently. Let's round out size and skill on the bottom six (which he did) and minimize the costs. Also, with Stewart, Stajan, Versteeg, Glass, Hrivik becoming UFA's, and with Shore, Jankowski, and Hathaway coming off contracts and probably not demanding much in increases, the Flames have options.

The question now is, with our depth going into next season, does Calgary qualify Shinkaruk, Poirier and Klimchuk? I think at least one of them, but not all three, will be around next year.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

After almost 24 hours to reflect, I think Treliving did a fantastic job. Our team has proven the ability to win, albeit inconsistently. Let's round out size and skill on the bottom six (which he did) and minimize the costs. Also, with Stewart, Stajan, Versteeg, Glass, Hrivik becoming UFA's, and with Shore, Jankowski, and Hathaway coming off contracts and probably not demanding much in increases, the Flames have options.

The question now is, with our depth going into next season, does Calgary qualify Shinkaruk, Poirier and Klimchuk? I think at least one of them, but not all three, will be around next year.

Klimchuk for sure. Poirier probably not. Shinkaruk is a definite maybe. And I think Wotherspoon might be cut loose (despite a pretty good season - there's just no room).

[The Boy Wonder]

I think Klimchuk is most likely of poirier shinkaruk and himself to be resigned.

Id imagine the other two won’t get resigned, especially if we have enough prospects graduate to the ahl level, if none of our 4th round + players from this summers draft are going to be in Stockton next year I could potentially see Poirier and shinkaruk get ahl deals.

[ah123]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I think Klimchuk is most likely of poirier shinkaruk and himself to be resigned.

Id imagine the other two won’t get resigned, especially if we have enough prospects graduate to the ahl level, if none of our 4th round + players from this summers draft are going to be in Stockton next year I could potentially see Poirier and shinkaruk get ahl deals.

I am expecting Poirier, Klimchuk and/or Shinkaruk to be traded for picks. I can see a rebuilding team being interested in Poirier or Shinkaruk, as a placeholder while their own prospects mature in the AHL

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

You've said some ridiculous things here but this has to be top 5.

How is Stewart a headcase?
Do you really think Treliving is afraid to fire Gulutzan?
Where do you come up with this nonsense?

He might be a head case. He just shows flashes of brilliance and then goes a half a season playing far below his potential.

6 NHL teams have passed on his erratic play .. They didn't move out the good Stewart they gave up on his bad streaks.

Right now the Flames have Bennett, Jankowski and Ferland that lose confidence, conditioning, or for what ever reason go for long periods where they are not very good hockey players. They are all young and there is hope that they will find a consistent level of play.

Stewart is 30 years old, and appears to be a nice guy well liked by his team-mates (Stajan's role) but his level of play relative to the potential that he shows from time to time is a coach killer.


As this is very likely his last chance at an NHL contract he should be highly motivated, but he has let down numerous teams and coaches.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by ah123

I am expecting Poirier, Klimchuk and/or Shinkaruk to be traded for picks. I can see a rebuilding team being interested in Poirier or Shinkaruk, as a placeholder while their own prospects mature in the AHL

I think that’s super wishful thinking. Would love to be wrong but all three are full on first round busts at this point and I only expect the org to give Klimchuk one more season to turn into a depth option in the NHL.

[868904]

Originally Posted by ah123

I am expecting Poirier, Klimchuk and/or Shinkaruk to be traded for picks. I can see a rebuilding team being interested in Poirier or Shinkaruk, as a placeholder while their own prospects mature in the AHL

I'd be ecstatic if Poirier or Shinkaruk could return a 7th round pick! But I doubt it.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

He might be a head case. He just shows flashes of brilliance and then goes a half a season playing far below his potential.

6 NHL teams have passed on his erratic play .. They didn't move out the good Stewart they gave up on his bad streaks.

Right now the Flames have Bennett, Jankowski and Ferland that lose confidence, conditioning, or for what ever reason go for long periods where they are not very good hockey players. They are all young and there is hope that they will find a consistent level of play.

Stewart is 30 years old, and appears to be a nice guy well liked by his team-mates (Stajan's role) but his level of play relative to the potential that he shows from time to time is a coach killer.

Inconsistent, and potentially washed up NHLer sure.

Headcase? Sure doesn't sound like it from the weepy good byes in Minnesota.

There's plenty to bash on Chris Stewart without suggesting he's a problem in the dressing room.

[Sutter4Mayor]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

He might be a head case. He just shows flashes of brilliance and then goes a half a season playing far below his potential.

6 NHL teams have passed on his erratic play .. They didn't move out the good Stewart they gave up on his bad streaks.

Right now the Flames have Bennett, Jankowski and Ferland that lose confidence, conditioning, or for what ever reason go for long periods where they are not very good hockey players. They are all young and there is hope that they will find a consistent level of play.

Stewart is 30 years old, and appears to be a nice guy well liked by his team-mates (Stajan's role) but his level of play relative to the potential that he shows from time to time is a coach killer.

Keep going, son. You're working your way out of it.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Inconsistent, and potentially washed up NHLer sure.

Headcase? Sure doesn't sound like it from the weepy good byes in Minnesota.

There's plenty to bash on Chris Stewart without suggesting he's a problem in the dressing room.

Problem? In that what strategies do coaches use to get him to play somewhat near his potential.

The locker is full of players that are playing well below their potential (IMO).

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Klimchuk for sure. Poirier probably not. Shinkaruk is a definite maybe. And I think Wotherspoon might be cut loose (despite a pretty good season - there's just no room).

Wotherspoon will be a UFA so it really isn't a decision for the Flames. He'll be gone either way.

[Ozy_Flame]

I just noticed that Wotherspoon has near identical stats to Rasmus Andersson this season.

If he hasn't made the case to get an NHL contract with another team, I'd be shocked. Perfect season to do it, he becomes UFA on July 1. I'd say there is zero chance he's back next year.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Problem? In that what strategies do coaches use to get him to play somewhat near his potential.

The locker is full of players that are playing well below their potential (IMO).

Not sure you have a point any more.

He was free.

They will either find him rejuvenated or they will scratch him.

[IgiTang]

I keep opening this thread to see the so called news round-up.. lol

[sa226]

Trade deadline gives me an opportunity to look at other teams and see what they have and where they plan to go. Normally I just focus on the Flames.

Given the Flames position in the standings, Darryl Sutters comment on the Backlund line (Really good third line on a cup winning team) and the moves they made yesterday, I will reiterate what I and others have said many times.

The Flames will be stuck spinning their wheels as a good, but not great team until Sam Bennett breaks out. We need the Backlund line to be the 3rd line.

Thats pretty narrow focused about Sam Bennett, so I will expand that thought to include Jankowski as well. Im in favour of moving a dman for more scoring, but then you potentially have cap complications and the return being less than what the team needs. But it is an option.

In the worst way the Flames need another young center, or hell even a winger, on a cheap contract to break out and carry a scoring line.

We may improve the powerplay, get lights out goaltending and perhaps win the division, but until the depth of scoring is addressed, the Flames will be what they will be.

Thats why I like the moves yesterday. Their issues are not going to be solved at the deadline by trading more futures. See what the current group can do, wait for the draft and keep investing in the kids.

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[Monahammer]

A lot of you thought that teams like Tampa overpaid when getting big value assets. Meanwhile we have three 2013 first rounders playing in the AHL with amazing junior stats that look as though they will amount to literally nothing in the NHL.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

rabble..rabble

You're such a head case.

Sorry, you might be one.

But you're a nice guy.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

A lot of you thought that teams like Tampa overpaid when getting big value assets. Meanwhile we have three 2013 first rounders playing in the AHL with amazing junior stats that look as though they will amount to literally nothing in the NHL.

Except that Tampa gave up:
1. Young NHL Players
2. Relatively known quantity prospects
3. Draft Picks.

I don't blame Feaster for the Iginla trade. He tried to get a 1st + Prospect + NHL Player in Bartkowski. That is similar to the Nash package.

I blame Feaster for the return on Bouw. That is a horrible return on a guy with term that did not need to be traded. When you look at what Tampa paid and you think about what Bouw would have been worse coming off an improved season, that trade set the franchise back to the point where we are still feeling it today. How much better would Tatar or Nyquist (as one example) look in Flames silks today?

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by sa226

Trade deadline gives me an opportunity to look at other teams and see what they have and where they plan to go. Normally I just focus on the Flames.

Given the Flames position in the standings, Darryl Sutters comment on the Backlund line (Really good third line on a cup winning team) and the moves they made yesterday, I will reiterate what I and others have said many times.

The Flames will be stuck spinning their wheels as a good, but not great team until Sam Bennett breaks out. We need the Backlund line to be the 3rd line.

Thats pretty narrow focused about Sam Bennett, so I will expand that thought to include Jankowski as well. Im in favour of moving a dman for more scoring, but then you potentially have cap complications and the return being less than what the team needs. But it is an option.

In the worst way the Flames need another young center, or hell even a winger, on a cheap contract to break out and carry a scoring line.

We may improve the powerplay, get lights out goaltending and perhaps win the division, but until the depth of scoring is addressed, the Flames will be what they will be.

Thats why I like the moves yesterday. Their issues are not going to be solved at the deadline by trading more futures. See what the current group can do, wait for the draft and keep investing in the kids.

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Agreed with this completely, if you are sitting flush with all draft picks. I guess I agree with it anyway, but this is a massive failure of Treliving if this team misses the playoffs.
Flames have no picks because they are already all in. So as long as Treliving trust in making it comes through, all is well.