What Should the Flames do at the Trade Deadline?

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

IF the Blues are flipping Berglund, Sobotka, and Fabbri for Brassard then Stone, Kylington, Hillies should be enough for Hoffman

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Hoffman-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Tkachuk
Versteeg-Lazar-Brouwer

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Hamonic
Kulak-Andersson

Smith
Rittich

Tkachuk and Frolik can be swapped if needed

You can bet your Hillies that would never happen!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Hold...for the love of god hold.

Trade deadline deals over the last few years have rarely changed the fortunes of the clubs involved for the better. We will be getting healthy which is good enough for this team.
We also know that the replacement players are good enough to get the job done.

Really, I think this team is good enough to go on a long playoff run. 3 things have to happen for that to occur:

1) They need to get healthy, especially Smith

2) They need to heat up at the right time, heading into the post-season

3) They need the special teams percentages to resemble the league average

Do all that, and they'll have a great chance at winning a few rounds.

[djsFlames]

They need another weapon if they have set their sights on more than one round.

If Backlund and Frolik were having seasons like their previous one then holding would be fine, but they're not. They're just not scoring, and Tkachuk has been the catalyst for any kind of production. Looking for a Frolik upgrade would be good, then he can help steady that third line a bit on the defensive end.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Saying Oduya replaces Brodie is like saying Stajan replaces Backlund

How so? Offensively I agree but Oduya is certainly better in his own end.

[ForeverFlameFan]

The more I think about it, the more we don't really have the make a move. Our team is finding its groove, and we don't even have Versteeg back, who is a decent middle 6er on his own. He'll be the one that will bump down Hathaway in my opinion. And he wouldn't cost a dime.

We want moves to be made, but we don't really have any draft picks to dispose of for this season. Our trade for the season was Hamonic, and it's been a solid acquisition.

I'd definitely love another winger add during the TDL, but I don't want Treliving to go all above and beyond the price of getting one. I don't think he will, he never has really been a rental guy in his tenure here.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

How so? Offensively I agree but Oduya is certainly better in his own end.

I don’t plan on getting into this debate. I know how little you think of Brodie’s game. Personally Oduya is a PTO 6-7 Dman at this stage. He would not be a suitable top 4 replacement.

[Snuffleupagus]

They need a cheap pure right shot shooter to play on the left side PP so Johnny can set him up from the left side where he belongs.

I would be shocked if Treliving isn't looking at a Vanek or Vrbata.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don’t plan on getting into this debate. I know how little you think of Brodie’s game. Personally Oduya is a PTO 6-7 Dman at this stage. He would not be a suitable top 4 replacement.

What? How is Oduya a PTO player? He is a SC winning solid D man in his own end.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

What? How is Oduya a PTO player? He is a SC winning solid D man in his own end.

That was years ago. He is 36 now and singed with Ottawa at the end of July. Why wouldn’t have Chicago kept him for the $1M he signed in Ottawa especially since they move Hjalmarsson?

It is because they knew he was nothing more than an old depth Dman.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

If Hoffman was a RW maybe.

[Shin Pad]

They really aren't a SC contender yet, so they should hold. Make moves in the off season.

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by Shin Pad

They really aren't a SC contender yet, so they should hold. Make moves in the off season.

What's going to change in the offseason? We are still going to have no draft picks and the same prospects. If we think we can get a player now who can help us this year and long term, why not pull the trigger now? I'd rather get someone who can help the team now than getting the same player who can help us in September.

The only reason you wouldn't trade now is because the prices are too high or that mgmt doesn't think we can make the playoffs.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

That was years ago. He is 36 now and singed with Ottawa at the end of July. Why wouldn’t have Chicago kept him for the $1M he signed in Ottawa especially since they move Hjalmarsson?

It is because they knew he was nothing more than an old depth Dman.

Because Chicago was moving in another direction, he was solid for the Hawks. He plays for a crappy Sens squad and is a +2. Brodie is a -9 on what should be a contender. So he might be an older D man but he is still unarguably better in his own zone than Brodie which is what I said. At this point he is better used as a 5-6 D man but he could step up in a #4 spot if needed.

[420since1974]

I vote HOLD.
The Flames just do not have the assets to get anyone decent at this time.

[dammage79]

I feel there's going to be a good deal that Treliving will make. Yeah Versteeg coming back will be a good addition but he's also going to need more than a handful of game to get up to speed as well. There's gonna be something.

And so far Treliving has earned some trust from fans to make a decent deal so I trust his judgement here as well. Even if they do hold off, but I don't think that'll be the case.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by 420since1974

I vote HOLD.
The Flames just do not have the assets to get anyone decent at this time.

None of us know this, teams and GMs are allowed to covetdifferent things. Cannot recall which selling team it was leading into this deadli e already saying they're more interested in propsect or youth than picks. So we will see.

[jemjey]

HODL

unless tre can work some wizardry.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by troutman

I'd like to get a 1st round pick.

This doesn't really make any sense from an organizational standpoint. I mean you can lament the loss of this year's first and believe that you'd rather have it than Travis Hamonic, sure.

But now that it's done to replace it during a run for a playoff spot would take a player equal to or greater in value than Hamonic. Who were you thinking you wanted to give up?


EDIT: There's probably what, eight players that could return a first in our line-up - Gaudreau, Monahan, Ferland, Tkachuk, Backlund, Hamilton, Giordano and Hamonic. Would you seriously give up a first round trade worthy player at this point in the rebuild?? That seems absolutely insane to me.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

What's going to change in the offseason? We are still going to have no draft picks and the same prospects. If we think we can get a player now who can help us this year and long term, why not pull the trigger now? I'd rather get someone who can help the team now than getting the same player who can help us in September.

The only reason you wouldn't trade now is because the prices are too high or that mgmt doesn't think we can make the playoffs.

Maybe the coaching staff will change.

I think the roster is pretty close to being complete. If they can over-perform rather than under-perform, the Flames could be a contender, maybe.

[Enoch Root]

I hope they do nothing - I don't want to see them overpay for a player that isn't part of the long term plans.

However, if Treliving can get a scoring winger for something like Fox+, then great. Yes please. But that is wishful thinking.

Oh, and Oduya better than Brodie defensively... lol. Once fans turn on a player, the hyperbole just gets ridiculous.