Bargain Shopping - Evander Kane

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Perfect if the hate for this guy on here is the same as it is amongst NHL GM’s then we should be able to get him for Shinkaruk and a 5th.Maybe Gillies/Kylington is over payment and if you can get this guy for less then that RIGHT ON!!!

But why do you want him? The guy has four (4) points in 2018 so far.

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Prices are sky-high. Not a chance Buffalo takes an offer that doesn't include a first-rounder.

Sure, if Buffalo wants us to take their first rounder in addition to E. Kane; I'd be willing to listen.

Like other posters in this thread have said, I'm not convinced he's matured that much recently either. Maybe someone with leadership qualities like Brouwer could help their locker room. He's been playing better of late.

[Ferkland]

No thanks. Don't care how cheap it is. Too many different stories over the years for it to not be true that he has character issues.

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

I want him cause he has he skill to be a difference maker.He put up 34pts in the first half of the year and his 4 in last 20 I think has to do more with Buffalo giving up on the season then his skill disappearing.I also want him because I think the price will be considerably less then other players available and since Calgary doesn’t have much for picks left why not take a chance on the guy.If he doesn’t work out and is still a #### head let him walk to UFA at the end of the year and find someone else in the off-season.I think you will be able to sign him to a cheap contract also if he does do well with your team which is also very desirable.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

Perfect if the hate for this guy on here is the same as it is amongst NHL GM’s then we should be able to get him for Shinkaruk and a 5th.Maybe Gillies/Kylington is over payment and if you can get this guy for less then that RIGHT ON!!!

Gilles and Kylington could be traded for a late 1st and a 2nd. They are what you hope late firsts and late seconds turn into. You are way undervaluing prospects relative to lottery tickets.

If you could pick him up for just Gilles (ie a 2nd) then maybe you think about it. Rentals rarely pan out even for elite teams.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

I want him cause he has he skill to be a difference maker.He put up 34pts in the first half of the year and his 4 in last 20 I think has to do more with Buffalo giving up on the season then his skill disappearing.

He put up those points playing with Jack Eichel, even though he was dragging Eichel down with his limited hockey sense.

He was removed from Eichel's line and his production disappeared.
Eichel's production skyrocketed after the change.

Kane is not an upgrade on Ferland, Bennett, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Jankowski, Backlund, or Monahan even if the numbers may or may not suggest otherwise. He might be an upgrade on Frolik offensively, but that's a low bar and may be offset by Frolik's two-way game. Garnet Hathaway is a worse player than Kane, but is actually outproducing (1.61 P/60) Kane (1.52) 5v5 this season albeit in a small sample size. This may be due to luck more than raw skill, but there's something to be said about the chemistry of the third line and no assurance that Kane can replicate that chemistry without Jack freakin' Eichel centering him.

Further, while Kane does have six power play goals, it's debatable if there is a fit on our power play because he is a left handed shot. Who do you take off the PP for another left shot, Tkachuk? Monahan? Do you take away from the development of guys like Bennett, Ferland and Jankowski who exude hockey sense and upside? Do you realistically expect Gulutzan to take power play time away from Backlund, who had as many or more PP goals last season (7) and PP assists (6+) four of the last five seasons as Kane's career highs (6G in 2012 and 6A this year)? No, you don't. Heck Ferland has as many PP goals this season (6G in 57GP) as Kane's aformentioned career high.

Kane is not a terrible player, and I wouldn't mind taking a gamble on a Frolik / Kane direct swap or a lower cost than that. Anything more is an overpayment and a half.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CanucksWorstNightmare

I want him cause he has he skill to be a difference maker.He put up 34pts in the first half of the year and his 4 in last 20 I think has to do more with Buffalo giving up on the season then his skill disappearing.I also want him because I think the price will be considerably less then other players available and since Calgary doesn’t have much for picks left why not take a chance on the guy.If he doesn’t work out and is still a #### head let him walk to UFA at the end of the year and find someone else in the off-season.I think you will be able to sign him to a cheap contract also if he does do well with your team which is also very desirable.

Your package for him is equivalent to giving 2 2nd round picks for a rental of
Kane. Kane is not the missing piece that will jump us to Stanley cup contenders. As for signing him I have no doubt someone is going to overpay for him in the off season. So no he won't be signing cheap.

I am not one of those guys that think he will be a distraction. People change and I think he might have. Dion changed quite a bit from his times hanging out at cowboys. I just don't think he's a true top 6 forward going forward. Way to inconsistent.

[CsInMyBlood]

Zero interest in Kane on this team even if he came for free.

Continually shows his true colors.

Big pass.

[CanucksWorstNightmare]

I think GM’s are also learning that they can’t screw up on free agents like they used to.They just can’t hand out money like nothing on players that may have some warts.I think he will sign a short term deal to try and prove himself in the next 2-3 years cause I just can’t see the interest being there for a high $$ amount.I am so interested to see what he ends up being traded for at the deadline.Maybe Gillies/Kylington is too much for a guy like him and if you can get him for less then I think you have to look at it.

[Poe969]

I think he'll sign here to in July if we can't get Tavares.

[White Out 403]

His production has absolutely tanked the last couple of months. Why anyone would trade for this idiot has beyond me

[Reggie Dunlop]

Pass.

While Gillies is a potential trade chip, I would rather see him moved in the off-season. Like someone mentioned, keep him around as a third-stringer for the stretch and potential playoff run.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Easy pass for me as well.

Kane to me is like Phaneuf. Great start to his career, but somewhere along the way something happened to derail him, and he is still living off of past glory, with occasional spurts of 'he can return to form'.

I can't think of anyone more overrated right now than he is. He doesn't put up a lot of points. He doesn't do much to actually help a team win. He brings in at the very least 'questionable' behaviors that may or may not be behind him.

He is Mr. Tools. Nice speed, great physicality, wicked shot... but either his IQ sucks, or his effort sucks. Either way, what is the point of wasting assets on a guy that doesn't help you win, and who may potentially rock the boat and become a distraction?

I would rather the Flames package up more prospects and try for a higher-end player than throw away any assets on this kid.

[lambeburger]

No

[DeluxeMoustache]

Good option for a riverboat gambler. All in on underachievers, wildcards and reclamation projects!

[Reggie Dunlop]

There are players and then there's "playas." Kane is definitely in the latter category.

[Roughneck]

Would I want Kane for the right price? Sure. But that price is something along the lines of Kane and Buffalo’s 1st for Brouwer and then we just let him walk on July 1.


Why the hell does anybody want this unproductive jackass?

[Cinephile]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

There are players and then there's "playas." Kane is definitely in the latter category.

What exactly are you trying to express with this sentiment?

[Rick M.]

I’m not sure Kane is a bargain. More like an exploding cigar.

[Dajazz]

Very overrated, all the tools, but no toolbox. Appears to have some motivational and behavioural issues.

I'd be very disappointed if he ended up a flame at any cost above a marginal draft pick. I don't even think I'd trade Brouwer straight up for him, and that's saying a lot...