Fire Dave Cameron

[Toonage]

This isn't a small sample size and it wouldn't be a kneejerk firing.

The PP has found its footing in (extended) spurts but by and large has been poor during the entirety of Cameron's run.

Cameron had an almost identically poor run in Ottawa.

The Flames are in a position of having surrendered valuable assets to be more than playoff fodder. They have dropped out of a playoff position due in large part to their lack of PP success. They went through their recent win streak with a massive lack of success on the PP then too.

What more is needed?

[Ashasx]

This is why you shouldn't expect things to get better

Pat Steinberg‏ @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames PP units tweaked a bit today:
Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Giordano

Bennett-Backlund-Ferland
Brodie-Hamilton

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is why you shouldn't expect things to get better

Pat Steinberg‏ @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames PP units tweaked a bit today:
Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Giordano

Bennett-Backlund-Ferland
Brodie-Hamilton

Team is being lead by incompetence, I have lost hope for this season. We will never win consistently under GG. The hot streaks are due to this team having some really good players, the losing streaks are due to this team having awful coaches who have zero idea how to make proper adjustments in game or in practice. Just beyond sickening

[Shazam]

Brouwer should just play on the first line all the time.

[TheScorpion]

Flames powerplay now sits at 29th in the league at 13.4% since the Versteeg injury, 0.1% ahead of Ottawa. In the month of January, it clicked at only 10.8%, and has gone at only 5.3% on this losing streak. Just brutal stuff.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Flames powerplay now sits at 29th in the league at 13.4% since the Versteeg injury, 0.1% ahead of Ottawa. In the month of January, it clicked at only 10.8%, and has gone at only 5.3% on this losing streak. Just brutal stuff.

Don’t worry, Brouwer standing in front of the goalie will fix it. Cuz you know it’s worked great in the past.

I’m starting to believe this coaching staff has a terrible read on what their players strength and weaknesses are. They put Backlund as the trigger man the last few games, while Backlund has never shown the ability to score from there and has 9 goals on the season. They take brain dead poor percentage shots, starting with Johnny who is stapled on the left side attempting to shoot at awful angles. If they want Johnny to shoot more he should be on the Right side on the PP not taking near post shots where the goalie has time to get set. Just awful coaching. They also put Tkachuk behind the net constantly, which is IMO a poor use of a very creative and skilled player.

[Otto-matic]

Flames cut practice short, but are still in the midst of a team meeting that has gone past half an hour already. Lots for them to chew on, for sure, as the season teeters on how they’ll react to last night’s gut punch.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Flames cut practice short, but are still in the midst of a team meeting that has gone past half an hour already. Lots for them to chew on, for sure, as the season teeters on how they’ll react to last night’s gut punch.

Why did they cut practice short? Could they not have a meeting after practice? This teams PP needs all the practice they can get, what the hell

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Why did they cut practice short? Could they not have a meeting after practice? This teams PP needs all the practice they can get, what the hell

Ideally they would forget everything Cameron has taught them.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is why you shouldn't expect things to get better

Pat Steinberg‏ @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames PP units tweaked a bit today:
Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Giordano

Bennett-Backlund-Ferland
Brodie-Hamilton

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Team is being lead by incompetence, I have lost hope for this season. We will never win consistently under GG. The hot streaks are due to this team having some really good players, the losing streaks are due to this team having awful coaches who have zero idea how to make proper adjustments in game or in practice. Just beyond sickening

Got it ...

Things working - all players
Things not working - all coaching

That's the ditch to ditch nature that usually is proven correct in real life.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Flames powerplay now sits at 29th in the league at 13.4% since the Versteeg injury, 0.1% ahead of Ottawa. In the month of January, it clicked at only 10.8%, and has gone at only 5.3% on this losing streak. Just brutal stuff.

The frustrating part and the part that has me concerned about Versteeg is.. and this is the impression I get from media and posters mentioning "Since the Versteeg injury", is that people think things will change when Versteeg is back and I feel management and coaches are thinking he will be the savior for the PP.

But its not the players on the PP and even when Versteeg was on the PP, the structure was the same and they had a bit more success. But that was due to, I feel, teams still getting their PK sorted more than the Flames having a threatening PP?

I cant be the only one who thinks this, am I?

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Got it ...

Things working - all players
Things not working - all coaching

That's the ditch to ditch nature that usually is proven correct in real life.

I think the inconsistency of this team is very much down to the coaching, there’s too many good players for this team to be so drastically inconsistent. I wasn’t thrilled with many of the games during the winning streak either, PP was still bad and they let many teams back in games. I don’t know it should be blamed all on coaching but I know this team is a hell of a lot better than Hartley’s teams and those teams never had meltdowns like this team has had since GG has been employed. It’s not all on coaching but it’s a damn big part. They actually think Brouwer is going to fix their PP woes, like c’mon. Our coaches suck

[JayP]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is why you shouldn't expect things to get better

Pat Steinberg‏ @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames PP units tweaked a bit today:
Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Giordano

Bennett-Backlund-Ferland
Brodie-Hamilton

This might be the worst configuration yet. Brouwer has proven himself useless on the powerplay and that was in his ideal slot as the down-low/net front option. Now the intent is to put him on the flank and play as a distributor and puck mover? I still don't know how the Flames haven't given Hamilton a chance on the top powerplay unit. He's the best option they have with Versteeg hurt if they want a right handed shot on the right flank.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I think the inconsistency of this team is very much down to the coaching, there’s too many good players for this team to be so drastically inconsistent. I wasn’t thrilled with many of the games during the winning streak either, PP was still bad and they let many teams back in games. I don’t know it should be blamed all on coaching but I know this team is a hell of a lot better than Hartley’s teams and those teams never had meltdowns like this team has had since GG has been employed. It’s not all on coaching but it’s a damn big part.

People look back on Hartley way too fondly.

We made the playoffs one season with him, and even in that season that we made the playoffs we had a 9 game losing streak under him.

Inconsistency has been a trait of this team going on 4 years now. Hartley's team struggled with it, and now GG faces many of the same issues.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I think the inconsistency of this team is very much down to the coaching, there’s too many good players for this team to be so drastically inconsistent. I wasn’t thrilled with many of the games during the winning streak either, PP was still bad and they let many teams back in games. I don’t know it should be blamed all on coaching but I know this team is a hell of a lot better than Hartley’s teams and those teams never had meltdowns like this team has had since GG has been employed. It’s not all on coaching but it’s a damn big part.

Hartley's teams were badly out played most of the time. It's hard to meltdown when you're chasing the game from the opening whistle.

Teams that play a good structured game have good coaching. They are near the top of the league most possession stats because they are for the most part carrying games. That's what you want from a coach. A system that allows you to out play the opposition.

If your players can't finish. If your players may inexplicable breakdowns that's on the individual.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

People look back on Hartley way too fondly.

We made the playoffs one season with him, and even in that season that we made the playoffs we had a 9 game losing streak under him.

Inconsistency has been a trait of this team going on 4 years now. Hartley's team struggled with it, and now GG faces many of the same issues.

They never had gaffs like GG’s team, the errors that have occurred since he’s been in charge have been comical. From the Elliott disaster, to losing 7 straight vs the Oilers to blowing every lead in like the last 6 games. Hartley was very flawed but I never viewed any of his teams as chokers or mentally weak.

[djsFlames]

Subbing Brouwer for Backlund, eh Cameron.

Gutsy.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Hartley's teams were badly out played most of the time. It's hard to meltdown when you're chasing the game from the opening whistle.

Teams that play a good structured game have good coaching. They are near the top of the league most possession stats because they are for the most part carrying games. That's what you want from a coach. A system that allows you to out play the opposition.

If your players can't finish. If your players may inexplicable breakdowns that's on the individual.

That’s a fair point but it still doesn’t excuse meltdowns from happening, and our meltdowns are elite. This team crumbles in big games when the other team captures momentum. Hartleys teams, as flawed as they were, did not crumble like this team does.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This is why you shouldn't expect things to get better

Pat Steinberg‏ @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames PP units tweaked a bit today:
Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Giordano

Bennett-Backlund-Ferland
Brodie-Hamilton

Troy Brouwer? The on pace for 5 Goals Troy Brouwer?

Like what in the actual F are they thinking?