[PGT] Golden Knights 4 - Flames 2

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

With the disappearing act of Gaudreau and Monahan regularly throughout this season, I honestly believe it is only the defense (as a whole), Tkachuk, and Smith who are keeping the Flames on pace for a wildcard spot. However, that is slowly slipping. Not so much the last 5 games, but the general consistency that has been absent the whole season.

Don't even get me started on Ferland; he is Captain Houdini.

Come on now...the guy in on 50% of our goals probably has something to do with it

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by dino7c

coach didn't shoot on his own net

Brodie let the puck go to . Not all on Frolik.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

I was watching Gallant all game and he was engaged with the players, patting them on the backs and talking to them everytime the camera panned over. He looked intense on the bench. But you just know the players are playing for him.

Camera pans to the Flames bench and it's GG with his head down watching the floor monitor, Gaudreau looking like he's going to cry and no one talking. At least the trainer's son looked like he was having fun.

Just piss poor leadership from the entire team. And not just the coaching. No one on the Flames bench looking like they have it in them to make a comeback. Just heads down, like a bunch of defeated school kids.

Perfect time to call a timeout. While it might not have resulted in a goal, it gives the team a chance to collect themselves. Nope. Our coach saves his timeouts just in case he needs to challenge a goal. That is exactly why he does not call timeouts. Serious question - has there been a time out called at any point this season? Our coach puts on the same line that just got scored on. Our coach 'asks' the players if they are fresh, and of course they say they are.

All game long I imagined we had the other GG behind the bench (Gallant). I imagined the team as skilled as we are, playing for a coach like him and hitting their potential.

We have the wrong GG behind the bench.

I could not agree more. Amateur hour behind the bench.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

When I heard the call on the radio I assume that he threw it back there and it surprised Smith who booted it out a far distance but right on the stick of the Knight player.

But when I watched and saw that he threw it back literally as a Knight was skating towards that spot - I too can't grasp what he was even trying to do.

He isn't a guy that normally panics. There were so many better options. Literally anything would have been better than what he did. He could have grabbed the puck, shoved it up his bum, and ran out of the arena with it lodged up there and it would have STILL been better than what he did.

My only guess is that he was afraid of getting hit, maybe he still feels the affects of the jaw. I have no idea, but very unusual play for sure.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I have been harsh on Gulutzan and the coaching all year, but I feel the players need to shoulder tonight's result.

No coach tells their players to play the puck back like that, at that stage of a one goal game. No coach draws up getting clean beat off the ensuing face off to give up hope of at least one point.

For all that skill, it's not the coaches fault they can't lean on skill and get at least a goal or 2 in every 10 tries on home ice.

Maybe the flames just aren't skilled enough to be a upper tier team.

Offensively, they only have 1 real top line threat in Gaudreau. Monahan is just a elite pure shooter in his spots but pretty darn avg in all other facets of the game. Tkatchuk seems to be progressing top a high end player, but outside if that, maybe the forwards are just not skilled enough to be regular contributors.

Goaltending is good, d finally looking good. Inability to score, particularly cash in with the man advantage clearly is a lack of skilled players seems to be the crux of the problem. Having a rw who can shoot and handle the puck could be a the major void hurting the pp. The setup as is, creates no bang-bang opportunities that the pk needs to worry about.

Back to this are we. So fire the GM, trade a few key players keep the coach. Right?

BTW saying our goaltending is "good" give me a break. Smith has been stellar.

[Flamesfan2010]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

With the disappearing act of Gaudreau and Monahan regularly throughout this season, I honestly believe it is only the defense (as a whole), Tkachuk, and Smith who are keeping the Flames on pace for a wildcard spot. However, that is slowly slipping. Not so much the last 5 games, but the general consistency that has been absent the whole season.

Don't even get me started on Ferland; he is Captain Houdini.

Yeah, the top line disappears too often. Especially Monahan and Ferland.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by dino7c

that isn't true

It isn’t, but it’s tough for me to stand by the veteran leadership of this team, and that includes Monahan.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

With the disappearing act of Gaudreau and Monahan regularly throughout this season, I honestly believe it is only the defense (as a whole), Tkachuk, and Smith who are keeping the Flames on pace for a wildcard spot. However, that is slowly slipping. Not so much the last 5 games, but the general consistency that has been absent the whole season.

Don't even get me started on Ferland; he is Captain Houdini.

Is Gaudreau really more inconsistent than other top scorers in the league?

[keenan87]

So, what's next? Make the team stay in a hotel for home games??

Obviously, they are distracted. Are a bunch of the young guys in new relationships or something??

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Meh - that is just absolving the players of any blame. At some point they need to make a play and take some responsibility.

Sure they do - and a good coach calls a time out when a situation like that happens - they're deflated and a bit confuzzed so....take a breather, settle down, and go back to what they were doing. Costs nothing at that point in the game.

GG doesn't wanna do that. So he puts guys right back out.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

With the disappearing act of Gaudreau and Monahan regularly throughout this season.

Lol

Gaudreau is over a point per game and Monahan is on pace for a career year and close to 40 goals.

You make it sound like they are going weeks at a time without scoring - they are the only players that regularly provide any type of offense.

They have been a little cold over this last stretch but overall they have carried the offensive load for most of this season.

They do need to take some responsibility for the poor PP though.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Our media is soft, but our radio guys are not. I'll be setting an alarm just for the sake of Boomer and Warrener going absolutely ham. Those two do not pull punches, they're not shy about going at the team hammer and tongs if they deserve it. And boy, after a choke like tonight, you can bet that they're steamed tonight and they'll still be steamed tomorrow morning.

If you're an early riser, make sure to tune into Boomer & Warrener in the morning tomorrow.

Looking forward to it!

There should be backlash after gift wrapping 5 games in a row. Particularly at a particular bespectacled individual behind the bench though, that has been an all season issue.

It's 5 games where a lack of mental fortitude and lapses in play/decision making, as well as an inept powerplay allowed points that were in hand to slip away.

Just learn from it boys. There's more than enough lessons to draw from this stretch.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Sure they do - and a good coach calls a time out when a situation like that happens - they're deflated and a bit confuzzed so....take a breather, settle down, and go back to what they were doing. Costs nothing at that point in the game.

GG doesn't wanna do that. So he puts guys right back out.

That’s the problem, GG just watches the game like a spectator and not a coach. Amateur hour as usual

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Is Gaudreau really more inconsistent than other top scorers in the league?

He is in on half our goals...he is more consistent than anyone else on the team...almost anyone in the league

nobody scores points every single game

The other two on the top line though

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Come on now...the guy in on 50% of our goals probably has something to do with it

You should check out the game-by-game stats for him. He was hot during the 7 game win streak, and completely cooled off - including before the streak.

Nothing wrong with pointing fingers where they are due; him and Monahan have not been delivering lately. Consistency makes a playoff team.

[Enoch Root]

What a contrast in coaching styles tonight was: one team constantly pressuring, one team constantly turning back; one team driving for the puck, one team waving at it with their sticks; one team trying to win, and one team trying not to lose.

Also, another huge difference: the Knights always had someone in front of the net and as soon as they got possession, the puck went to the net. The Flames, on the other hand, rarely have a body in front. There was a moment I was discussing this very fact with the guy beside me and the Flames got the puck in the offensive zone. The player turned to find someone to pass it to, and there wasn't anyone within 30 feet of the net or the slot. So he passed it around the boards where it was intercepted.

I hate the way we play. I cannot wait for this coaching staff to be gone.

[Corral]

Ah but this is just one loss, and first in regulation time since the end of December. Plenty of hockey yet to be played ... All of you should stop over-reacting. There is clearly nothing wrong with this team.

[TheAlpineOracle]

The post-game show on the way home from the game has me seething. Do Steinberg, Louno, or Wills have an ounce of objectivity anymore? Just paid advertisement for the Flames.

This team sucks. It’s as simple as that. Can’t score goals to bury teams, they are always one shot from getting back in every game despite how good the Flames are playing. Their PP is the worst I have ever seen at the Dome, I’m assuming bey have one of the worst home records in the league, their coaching staff makes questionable decisions each and every game, and the team is likely the most mentally weak team I’ve seen in decades here in Calgary.

I’m taking a few nights off. I’ll give my tickets to some coworkers. I work too much tons End my nights seething mad at this garbage hockey team. Without Smith or 3 on 3 OT, this team is a bottom 5 team in the league.

[oldschoolcalgary]

team is fragile...

not sure how else to explain the last 5 games... its like they all go into panic mode.

you could literally feel the ice tipping with 5 min left as LV started their push...it really felt inevitable to me that LV would score - i couldn't have guessed how they would score mind you...

not sure why GG is so stingy with his TOs either... spend them or lose them... if you are protecting a one goal lead and they are getting pummeled, not sure why you wouldn't use it. No reason to save them, because if LV ties it, you just hold on for OT anyways...

really dumbfounded

[CSharp]

Wow WTF?!? 7-game win streak now being pissed away. UNBELIEVABLE!