01-29-2018, 11:32 AM
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#6741
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He would have had to submit that list already, right? Ottawa was supposed to be good; maybe they're not on it
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01-29-2018, 11:39 AM
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#6742
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Lifetime Suspension
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Just a suggestion,
To TOR:
Brodie
To CGY:
Nylander
Andersson looks ready for a Roster spot, Nylander is a Right hand shot with plenty of skill/potential.
I know Toronto is looking for a top 4 D.
With Valimaki/Kylington/Fox/Andersson in the system, I think Flames can afford to trade a top 4 D right now
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01-29-2018, 11:43 AM
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#6743
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Self-Retired
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Just a suggestion,
To TOR:
Brodie
To CGY:
Nylander
Andersson looks ready for a Roster spot, Nylander is a Right hand shot with plenty of skill/potential.
I know Toronto is looking for a top 4 D.
With Valimaki/Kylington/Fox/Andersson in the system, I think Flames can afford to trade a top 4 D right now
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In a heartbeat. I strongly feel that what Brodie brings to this team is replaceable from within the organization. It may take a year or two to fully get thatbplayer to Brodie’s level and beyond in some areas but in others, should be a smooth transition. Plus adding a top 6 winger? No brainer.
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01-29-2018, 11:46 AM
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#6744
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First Line Centre
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Troy Brouwer also has a 15 team NTC.
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01-29-2018, 11:49 AM
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#6745
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Just a suggestion,
To TOR:
Brodie
To CGY:
Nylander
Andersson looks ready for a Roster spot, Nylander is a Right hand shot with plenty of skill/potential.
I know Toronto is looking for a top 4 D.
With Valimaki/Kylington/Fox/Andersson in the system, I think Flames can afford to trade a top 4 D right now
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Yes without having to even think about it. Brodie's replaceable from within at this point. We're severely lacking on the right side.
That said, TO doesn't go for it. We'd have to add. Probably significantly.
Brodie & Mangiapane for Nylander maybe? I think I'm still on board for that.
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01-29-2018, 11:52 AM
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#6746
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: 0° latitude, 0° longitude
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knowing GG likes his D to play the natural side, who replaces Brodie ... Kulk, then who replaces him ... Bartowski?
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01-29-2018, 11:53 AM
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#6747
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Just a suggestion,
To TOR:
Brodie
To CGY:
Nylander
Andersson looks ready for a Roster spot, Nylander is a Right hand shot with plenty of skill/potential.
I know Toronto is looking for a top 4 D.
With Valimaki/Kylington/Fox/Andersson in the system, I think Flames can afford to trade a top 4 D right now
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You absolutely make that trade if it was possible. Not sure how GG would manage with 4 right shots on his blueline though?
I stated this before. A Brodie deal to Toronto is more of a Kadri like return. If we want Marner or Nylander I think the Leafs are looking for Hamilton in return. I think Toronto adds to those deals but if we want 21-22 year olds with 60pt seasons under their belts Brodie is not getting it done
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01-29-2018, 11:54 AM
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#6748
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Lifetime Suspension
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Ya I think we would have to add, nothing too significant though. Id be fine with Mangiapane/Hathaway/Hrivik/Lazar/Versteeg/2nd round pick
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01-29-2018, 12:00 PM
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#6749
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
Troy Brouwer also has a 15 team NTC.
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Troy Brouwer has a FULL NTC for this season.
It becomes a modified NTC on July 1st, which is when the 15 team no-go list comes into play.
Right now, Brouwer is in 100% control - the only place the Flames could move him without his consent, is down to Stockton.
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01-29-2018, 12:01 PM
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#6750
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puckedoff
Flames would have to be insane to consider trading Brouwer now, he is just starting to heat up.
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I lol'd hard, the bold part was perfect.
As for Nylander for Brodie, there's no way Toronto does that. We'd have to add for sure and even then I think they hang up the phone at any name not starting with Hamilton.
Would be like AZ offering OEL for Tkachuk straight up.
Last edited by Royle9; 01-29-2018 at 12:03 PM.
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01-29-2018, 12:03 PM
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#6751
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Demetric
knowing GG likes his D to play the natural side, who replaces Brodie ... Kulk, then who replaces him ... Bartowski?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
You absolutely make that trade if it was possible. Not sure how GG would manage with 4 right shots on his blueline though?
I stated this before. A Brodie deal to Toronto is more of a Kadri like return. If we want Marner or Nylander I think the Leafs are looking for Hamilton in return. I think Toronto adds to those deals but if we want 21-22 year olds with 60pt seasons under their belts Brodie is not getting it done
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I think GG plays R/L D because (a) he prefers it but also because (b) he has the people to do it with.
In a pinch he'd probably do Rasmus/Stone. But he'd probably platoon Bart in as well.
But Toronto has too many LH D and Babcock like to play r/l handed pairs as well, so maybe the deal gets bigger? Hainsey would be good on the third pairing. Brodie in Toronto would move him further down the depth chart.
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01-29-2018, 12:03 PM
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#6752
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Ya I think we would have to add, nothing too significant though. Id be fine with Mangiapane/Hathaway/Hrivik/Lazar/Versteeg/2nd round pick
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That is not getting Nylander. I don't think Toronto is interested in moving him anyhow. The add to Brodie would probably be significantly more if they did, like Bennett
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01-29-2018, 12:04 PM
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#6753
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goflamesgo18
Just a suggestion,
To TOR:
Brodie
To CGY:
Nylander
Andersson looks ready for a Roster spot, Nylander is a Right hand shot with plenty of skill/potential.
I know Toronto is looking for a top 4 D.
With Valimaki/Kylington/Fox/Andersson in the system, I think Flames can afford to trade a top 4 D right now
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Please Lord
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01-29-2018, 12:07 PM
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#6754
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Troy Brouwer has a FULL NTC for this season.
It becomes a modified NTC on July 1st, which is when the 15 team no-go list comes into play.
Right now, Brouwer is in 100% control - the only place the Flames could move him without his consent, is down to Stockton.
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If you're Brouwer, do you refuse any trade other than Edmonton?
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01-29-2018, 12:11 PM
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#6755
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
That is not getting Nylander. I don't think Toronto is interested in moving him anyhow. The add to Brodie would probably be significantly more if they did, like Bennett
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Toronto is the last team I would want to move Bennett. I feel if and when the Flames trade him we will regret it and he will put it all together. If that happens it can’t be in Toronto
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01-29-2018, 12:12 PM
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#6756
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
You absolutely make that trade if it was possible. Not sure how GG would manage with 4 right shots on his blueline though?
I stated this before. A Brodie deal to Toronto is more of a Kadri like return. If we want Marner or Nylander I think the Leafs are looking for Hamilton in return. I think Toronto adds to those deals but if we want 21-22 year olds with 60pt seasons under their belts Brodie is not getting it done
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I think it's closer than you suggest.
Leafs were in a bidding war for Hamonic and wouldn't pay the 1st + 2 2nds. I'd venture to say Brodie (despite his warts) is at least as valuable on the trade market given he also has a team friendly contract.
Not to mention, the media in Toronto is HOT for a defenceman that pressure has to be felt by management. Top 4 D for a top 6 winger seems like fair trade value to me. Might have to slightly add if you're Calgary, but not substantially IMO.
Last edited by howard_the_duck; 01-29-2018 at 12:19 PM.
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01-29-2018, 12:12 PM
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#6757
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
If you're Brouwer, do you refuse any trade other than Edmonton?
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He has another two years left in his contract, and he seems quite content with his status. A trade also involves uprooting his family.
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01-29-2018, 12:16 PM
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#6758
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
If you're Brouwer, do you refuse any trade other than Edmonton?
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Yes, his family just built a home here in Calgary.
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01-29-2018, 12:18 PM
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#6759
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howard_the_duck
I think it's closer than you suggest.
Leafs were in a bidding war for Hamonic and wouldn't pay the 1st + 2 2nds. I'd venture to say Brodie (despite his warts) is at least as valuable on the trade market given he also has a team friendly contract.
Not to mention, the media in Toronto is HOT for a defenceman and Brodie and that pressure has to be felt by management. Top 4 defencemen for a top 6 winger seems like fair trade value to me. Might have to slightly add if you're Calgary, but not substantially IMO.
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I just don’t think the Leafs make a move for a Dman including Nylander or Marner unless it is for a younger guy like Hanifin.
Leafs would probably rather pay the cheaper price for Johnson, or Barrie than pay Nylander for Brodie.
If that deal were on the table the Flames need to make it immediately. A super skilled right shot forward that is 21-22 years old?
Put him with Bennett and Jankowski with potential to move up to the top line and obviously put him on the top unit PP.
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01-29-2018, 12:26 PM
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#6760
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I agree with the age question - ideally they'd bring someone back a bit younger ala Hanifin. I don't know that a winger has the same trade value though, and I'd venture any of those young defencemen would only be parted with for a Centre.
It just seems the Leafs are not all in with Nylander as he's constantly in Babcock's doghouse. Perhaps it's baseless speculation but I think they would part with him for a package including a player like Brodie coming back. Sheds them of a potential big 2nd contract for Nylander and buys them some flexibility to add in free agency with guys like Tavares/Doughty, etc coming onto the FA market over the next couple years.
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