[PGT] Flames 3 - Oielrs 4 (SO)

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by browna

There hasn’t been a true Battle of Alberta for over a couple decades. Technically sure these teams have played, and the media will try and sensationalize, but one or both teams have been crap for the entire time. Playoffs in 2006 if Calgary got past Anaheim may have approached that, but the true battle of Alberta’s are gone in the sense of all out hatred on the ice (or the field) due to the nature of the game.

That doesn’t mean that those of us who are near or over 40 and from Calgary don’t remember what it used to be like to hate the Oilers and Edmonton as an extension, and want to beat them every single time and hope that the Oilers or Esks lose every single game to other teams.

For GG to pass this off as another game against a “good team” is insulting to certain section of Calgary and Flames fans who went through those years and beating the Oilers is mandatory, or else.

Maybe he and certain players should take to YouTube over this break and check out some 80s and early 90s highlights BOA highlights.

Get some press clippings of the banter between the two teams and papers and how much this is and was a hated rivalry, as writers traded insults in the paper, and non PC (now)jokes were flying between the 4 papers.

Bring in Mike Bullard to talk about the criminal spear he took from McSorely in the 88 Playoffs.
Ask Steve Konroyd about the knee he took from Semenko when engaged in a fight.
Ask Risebrough about shredding a jersey in a penalty box.
Ask Nattress about the blatant elbow head shot he took from Messier, and then chirped by the Oilers bench as he stumbles around trying to get off.
Ask Guy Lapoine about the beer poured on his head on the bench in Northlands.

Bring in Sheehy and Baxter and Peplinski to talk about the dirty trick and eye gouges McLelland, Hunter and other pieces of crap on those teams pulled in scrums and in fights.

Ask fans who travelled up there, many from CP, in the dark days of the late 90s and early 2000s on the treatment by the fans, arena staff, security and police, as if Flames fans were all on parole and were guilty before proven the chance to be proven innocent.

Maybe after a bit of a lesson he wouldn’t be so dismissive of the rivalry and the putrid results he’s prepared and got out of his teams under his direction against Edmonton. Being the only Flames head coach in the franchise history to have yet to beat the Oilers and have the longest losing streak to that team in the 200+ times these teams have played is embarrassing to the fanbase and an outright failure.

The team has taken the identity of it's head coach. He's basically a really, really nice guy. Even the throwing the stick incident looked a bit awkward like a nice guy trying not to be nice. Friedman was talking about this team having leads in every game this week against teams that came in playing poorly and the Flames let them all off the hook and lost the games. He's not invested in this team so an unbiased evaluation of this week and how this team simply lacks the mentality to put their foot down and finish off opponents. I'm sorry but head coaches get paid for one thing and that's to win so to be okay with a loss like that is very troubling but given how the Flames can't seem to put anyone away. Unfortunately this appears to be the culture under this coach.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Watch the final 2 or 3 minutes again. There were at least 4 separate instances where, when the defenseman got the puck and had time to make a play, he simply lobbed it out to center instead. No attempt to push forward whatsoever.

On the last occasion, Hamilton had the puck and all three forwards were open in front of him. But instead of passing it, he flipped it over their heads to center. The only reason the Flames got a late scoring chance was because the Oiler D screwed up and turned it over int heir own end.

The Flames have been playing for the tie all season, but tonight may have been the most blatant example yet.

Literally lobbed it. Pretty much every break out in the last 3 minutes was a flip out 15 feet in the air. They were doing the hockey version of punting it.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Ha ha ha. 960 trashing the Flames saying they sucked this week. They even read out some emails from the optimists complaining they were being too hard on them and destroyed them ha ha ha. Even Friedman is saying this team has no killer instinct.

In my view, Fan960 are correct..

Lack of emotion last several games is mind boggling..

Flames are at risk of going into a losing streak if they can not find a way to generate offense, score on the power play and find an way to dominate at home.....

In the past, right about now would have been a perfect time for a trade...

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by flambers

In my view, Fan960 are correct..

Lack of emotion last several games is mind boggling..

Flames are at risk of going into a losing streak if they can not find a way to generate offense, score on the power play and find an way to dominate at home.....

In the past, right about now would have been a perfect time for a trade...

Risk going on a losing streak? The team has lost 4 in a row.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Risk going on a losing streak? The team has lost 4 in a row.

Some consider the Flames are still obtaining points... thus its not a losing streak.

However I totally agree.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by flambers

Some consider the Flames are still obtaining points... thus its not a losing streak.

However I totally agree.

It’s also 4 games without an addition to the win column which hurts their odds of winning any tiebreakers and given how tight the standings are it’s not a reach to expect a few teams finishing the season tied at point totals. Only the Ducks have less wins in the 7 teams bunched within 3 points.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Wisers

I was at the game tonight. What a pathetic effort by the Flames. Embarrassing. Almost got in two fights. PP is horrible. Brouwer is just plain awful I’m every sense of the word. Guy can’t even throw a hard body check. Tkachuk and Lomberg played great.This team needs a major shakeup because if they do make the playoffs, I guarantee first round exit

be honest. how much did you drink last night and how much of the altercation was on you.

In both Edmonton and Calgary, I usually find the only fights or situations occurring are from both sides being loudmouth drunk jerks.

[Huntingwhale]

5 misconducts. Including one for Rittich in OT and McDavid in the shootout. Not exactly sure what Rittich did. The goal got called back.

McDavid with the misconduct after chirping the ref after his shootout goal.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

5 misconducts. Including one for Rittich in OT and McDavid in the shootout. Not exactly sure what Rittich did. The goal got called back.

McDavid with the misconduct after chirping the ref after his shootout goal.

I think after the OT goal that was eventually called back, it was for smashing his stick.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Lame. Exciting game but still lame.

Maybe the last 5-10 minutes were exciting. The rest of the game was basically the Flames mailing in a 2-0 lead that should have been 3 or 4-0 had they kept playing and asserted themselves on that AHL squad.

This team is going nowhere this year unless big things change in a hurry - PP, secondary scoring, intensity. The season has been pretty poor if you take the 8 game win streak out of the equation (which they are doing a good enough job of themselves as we speak anyway). They sit just one point out of 12th spot in the conference and giving away what should have been three wins is telling of what this team is made of.

[fwksfinale]

It’s been said a few times, we have 18 of 22 points and our scoring has been real bad for the last 4 games at least.

How many teams have more points in their last 11 games? Not many, not sure what all the excitement is.

[ResAlien]

I’m sure that things will turn around on Tuesday when we face

*checks schedule*

the western conference leading Las Vegas golden knights. Doh.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Here's the thing about Bennett.


He sucks. He sucks really badly. He shouldn't be anywhere near OT or PP ice.

I agree he is looking like a major bust. His hockey sense is so obviously poor and he is completely unable to generate offense at a high level with any consistency. However, what are the other options for Gulutzan when late in games or OT? He's pretty much the best the team has at this point and time, despite not being able to produce.

You can't play Ferland, Brouwer, Stajan, Hrivik, Mangiapane or Lomberg as they are too slow and not good enough with the puck. Put Bennett on that list and Gulutzan is down to 5 forwards he can use during crunch time....this is a GM problem if the forward depth is that poorly suited to crucial times of an NHL game.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

I’m sure that things will turn around on Tuesday when we face

*checks schedule*

the western conference leading Las Vegas golden knights. Doh.

I’m excited for this one. I’m interested to see how the Flames stack up to the Knights. Maybe the Flames can be the team that gives them troubles.

[rotten42]

I turned the game off after the second period. Just can't stomach watching how mentally soft this team plays.

[burnitdown]

Originally Posted by fwksfinale

It’s been said a few times, we have 18 of 22 points and our scoring has been real bad for the last 4 games at least.

How many teams have more points in their last 11 games? Not many, not sure what all the excitement is.

Things are so tight this year, it seems quite reasonable to think the difference between the 2nd seed in the Pacific and missing the playoffs won't be more than 10 points...and that's being extra generous. No one is saying the season is over. People are just upset that we've given away at least 2 critical points to crappy teams like BUF and EDM. Those 2 points can very well be the difference between getting home ice, or even making the playoffs.

Getting a point every game is falling back in the race cause a .500 hockey team finishes with 82 points...and missing the playoffs by a bunch.

[ComixZone]

Bennett won a board battle and gave Jankowski a clear cut breakaway in OT.

Fickle. Some fans on this forum are beyond fickle.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Watch the final 2 or 3 minutes again. There were at least 4 separate instances where, when the defenseman got the puck and had time to make a play, he simply lobbed it out to center instead. No attempt to push forward whatsoever.

On the last occasion, Hamilton had the puck and all three forwards were open in front of him. But instead of passing it, he flipped it over their heads to center. The only reason the Flames got a late scoring chance was because the Oiler D screwed up and turned it over int heir own end.

The Flames have been playing for the tie all season, but tonight may have been the most blatant example yet.

Yup, you have to be pretty much blind to not see what the team was doing. The defense was in the flip the puck out of the zone mode for the last 3-4 minutes of the game. They got lucky and the Oilers lost the puck in their own zone, allowing for some late pressure, but the Flames were not responsible for pushing the play forward or trying to instigate offensive pressure.

Sadly, the Flames were passive in OT as well. They let the Oilers initiate everything and never pressured the Oilers at all. They counter-punched and looked for the Oilers to lose rather than attempting to win. This is Gulutzan in a nutshell. He'd rather his team wait for a mistake and hope to capitalize on it than initiate. I get the strategy, but you are tying some thorobreds to some field plows by doing that.

[krynski]

The OT goal got called back? I turned off the game when Rittich broke his stick!

[Flabbibulin]

SO eh? How did this happen? Shut off tv in disgust right after the OT goal.