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Old 01-20-2018, 10:28 AM   #5981
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I do not really get the hate for Montreal. So many people hope they fail. I understand Toronto (center of the universe), Edmonton, Vancouver and to some extent Winnipeg (same conference).

Montreal is a storied franchise and the players have to put up with absolute hell from the Media. I cheer for Montreal if the Flames are out of it.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:35 AM   #5982
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I do not really get the hate for Montreal. So many people hope they fail.
I watched game 7 of the 2004 Stanley Cup finals in Montreal. The entire city cheered for Tampa Bay and we were boo'ed when we walked into the sports bar with our Flames jerseys.

I hope nothing but failure and disappointment on that franchise and their fans.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:47 AM   #5983
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There are a lot of pieces on Ottawa that I would want. Montreal on the other hand....
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:50 AM   #5984
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I watched game 7 of the 2004 Stanley Cup finals in Montreal. The entire city cheered for Tampa Bay and we were boo'ed when we walked into the sports bar with our Flames jerseys.

I hope nothing but failure and disappointment on that franchise and their fans.
I did not know that. Based my bias on a few local Hab fans and that stupid chant. Thank you.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:50 AM   #5985
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I think Pacioretty could be a solid fit. Also thinking his price will be low.

Brouwer+Valimaki+Dube for Pacioretty

Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
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Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway-Stajan-Mangiapane

The Flames already have a few other dman knocking on the door so dealing with strength. As for Dube, sell high while his stock is currently great.

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Old 01-20-2018, 10:54 AM   #5986
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I think Pacioretty could be a solid fit. Also thinking his price will be low.

Brouwer+Valimaki+Dube for Pacioretty

Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Bennett-Jankowski-Pacioretty
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway-Stajan-Mangiapane
That's what you call a low price? Yikes.
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:56 AM   #5987
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Any deal involving Vallimaki is a bad deal IMO
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Old 01-20-2018, 10:59 AM   #5988
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I think Pacioretty could be a solid fit. Also thinking his price will be low.

Brouwer+Valimaki+Dube for Pacioretty

Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Bennett-Jankowski-Pacioretty
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway-Stajan-Mangiapane

The Flames already have a few other dman knocking on the door so dealing with strength. As for Dube, sell high while his stock is currently great.
Let's not give up two of our best prospects for patches.......how about that
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:01 AM   #5989
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That's a terrible trade.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:01 AM   #5990
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Let's not give up two of our best prospects for patches.......how about that
Nah, how about we do trade a mid-first round pick and a guy who will top out on the bottom 6 for a top 6 player who has size and provides leadership.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:03 AM   #5991
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I think Pacioretty could be a solid fit. Also thinking his price will be low.

Brouwer+Valimaki+Dube for Pacioretty

Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Bennett-Jankowski-Pacioretty
Ferland-Backlund-Frolik
Hathaway-Stajan-Mangiapane

The Flames already have a few other dman knocking on the door so dealing with strength. As for Dube, sell high while his stock is currently great.
With no first this year, giving up what I consider to be our two surest bets to become NHLers would be incredibly short-sighted.

Imagine if Fox goes full term at Harvard, and then FA. That would mean that our top five prospects (ignoring goalies) would be:

Andersson
Kylington
Mangiapane
Foo
Klimchuk

That is Oiler-bad, with no additions to that list until June, 2019

Absolutely derails the prospect list.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:04 AM   #5992
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Nah, how about we do trade a mid-first round pick and a guy who will top out on the bottom 6 for a top 6 player who has size and provides leadership.
Who is he replacing in our top six?
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:07 AM   #5993
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Who is he replacing in our top six?
With the current set up, the Flames have more of a top 9. I think he replaces Hathaway in that top 9. Personally, I think he can play anywhere and adds anotuer element of scoring when Gaudreau and Monahan go on their cold streaks together.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:08 AM   #5994
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With the current set up, the Flames have more of a top 9. I think he replaces Hathaway in that top 9.
So you want to trade our best prospects for a decent 3rd liner......
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:08 AM   #5995
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Nah, how about we do trade a mid-first round pick and a guy who will top out on the bottom 6 for a top 6 player who has size and provides leadership.
Arguably the worst captain in the NHL and will need a hugencontract at 31 years old. It would be a terrible trade
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With no first this year, giving up what I consider to be our two surest bets to become NHLers would be incredibly short-sighted.

Imagine if Fox goes full term at Harvard, and then FA. That would mean that our top five prospects (ignoring goalies) would be:

Andersson
Kylington
Mangiapane
Foo
Klimchuk

That is Oiler-bad, with no additions to that list until June, 2019

Absolutely derails the prospect list.
That is fair but Dube to me isn't surefire. There have been numerous prospects over the last decade who did amazing and fell off. Maybe that's where my perspective comes from.

Poirier, Rienhart, etc.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:11 AM   #5997
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Finding a scoring winger for Bennett and Jankowski would be awesome. But that price is too high.

The Flames aren't in the twilight of their competitive window, it isn't time to shoot our wad for one final run.
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:12 AM   #5998
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I think seeimg these propsed trades are making me want to stay the course. With our top prospects and some shrewed management going forward a 7 year window to compete seems better than 2 or 3 (if any of these trades are made)
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:13 AM   #5999
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No, no, no, no. Why the hell would we trade two solid prospects for a year and 20 games of a guy?

We're playing the way we've been wanting this team to play since the game 1. And we're winning now. Why change anything?
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Old 01-20-2018, 11:13 AM   #6000
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So you want to trade our best prospects for a decent 3rd liner......
Yup, if the decent "3rd liner" is a 65 point player on the right side.

Personally, I consider the Bennett-Jankowski-Pacioretty line to be equally as important as other lines.
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