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Old 01-15-2018, 01:52 PM   #261
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If Aho skates in the slot and Gio raised his elbow and clips Aho in the chin thats on Gio.

But in this case Aho skated INTO Giordano! And Gio didn't raise his arm or target his head. And Gio was standing still.

Are you implying that a player can duck his head down into his chest and then can't be touched by an opposing player?
I am done with this. I have said what I have said, and I don't think I need to repeat myself. You can find a fuller breakdown of my opinion and an answer to your question in my several other posts.
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Old 01-15-2018, 01:55 PM   #262
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No.

But i have seen guys purposely place themselves in dangerous situations knowing there would be a call if the hit is made. Almost always along the boards, which IMO is FAR more dangerous than playing footsie with oneself through the middle of the ice as we witnessed yesterday.

There is a dearth of personal responsibility at times.
Yeah, I generally agree.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:07 PM   #263
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It's 2018, man. You can't hit people in the head, even if they dodge.
That's not what the rule 48.1 says.
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Correct decision IMO.

FWIW, I don't think Aho has some responsibility to keep his head up. The subrules about player position are, in my mind, more about players falling into position where their head is low, or ducking into a head hit.

The reason I think this is correct is that there is insufficient evidence that the main point of contact is the head. Taking Textcritic's position that it's not clear whether it is or not, I think the burden of proof would be on the party trying to impose a fine or suspension. Then there is also subrule (i) and (iii) which I think favour Gio.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:13 PM   #265
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Phew, crisis averted.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:20 PM   #266
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I don't know, this guy on Twitter seems to think maybe the hit was worse than we all think...

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Old 01-15-2018, 02:21 PM   #267
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The whole point isn't that the move was stupid, it's to try and prevent players from devastating one another when mistakes get made. That's the culture change they are trying to impact.

All Gio needs to do there to prevent a goal is separate Aho from the puck. He doesn't need to make a statement hit. I have no issue with Gio trying for a statement hit as he did, nor Iam I saying the hit makes Gio dirty. But the whole point is putting full responsibility on the person hitting if you take advantage of a mistake and go for a lights out hit vs simple puck separation. If you can't ensure proper execution of said hit, you might pay the price. Aho is going to pay the price regardless for his mistake.
This is an incredibly rediculous mindset. The player, like it or not, DOES have the responsibility of playing the game with a sliver of common sense. Skating accross the middle with your head down, when you know what that defensemans job is, shows a tremendous lack of respect, and/or common sense for what that defensemans can do, and what he should do. Your comment shows an incredible lack of insight.
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:39 PM   #268
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Like I said earlier, not only will there be no supplemental...i believe Treliving will be making the request to have the match penalty (and associated game misconduct) rescinded entirely as it was the incorrect call.

Those misconducts can cost you once you get to the end of the season and into the playoffs.
How do the misconducts play into future events?
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:41 PM   #269
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Glad the NHL got it right
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:44 PM   #270
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How do the misconducts play into future events?
3 game misconducts during the regular season or 2 game misconducts during the playoffs is an automatic 1 game suspension if they fall under the "general" category and then an automatic 1 game suspension for every game misconduct after.
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Here's a "different" point of view. This article suggests it was a bump followed by Gio intentionally going for the knee.
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/14...for-hit-on-aho
The Score is reaching new levels today:

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Old 01-15-2018, 02:54 PM   #272
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Has the Score turned into the place where all the interns go to get credits towards their schooling? Either that or it is run by bots.
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The Score is reaching new levels today:

Damn! You hit one guy and all of a sudden your number changes and you start to look suspiciously like Dennis Wideman.

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The Score is reaching new levels today:

How is the Score still a thing?
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:27 PM   #276
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Is that legit or a photoshop haha
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:32 PM   #277
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I'm pleasantly surprised. I thought that they would see the helmet turning and auto-suspend essentially based on that. Happy to be wrong though!
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:38 PM   #278
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Shouldn't have even been a penalty.

Flames won the game so no harm in the long run, but if the Flames lost due to their best defenseman being ejected wrongly, I would be so pissed.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:39 PM   #279
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Must be Oiler fans working there, just trolling CGY today.
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Old 01-15-2018, 03:44 PM   #280
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Well hopefully none of you 'blame the victim' folks administer our justice system.
‘Victim’ implies that something illegal or wrong was done. It’s kinda hard to come up with a great analogy with real life but if I have to come to a sudden stop and the person behind me crashes hard into me and gets hurt, they are not a ‘victim’, they will be to blame for the accident. If someone is legally hit in a sport that permits contact, they are not a victim. Take your self-righteous bull#### somewhere else.
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