Does Giordano get suspended for the hit on Aho? Update:No hearing scheduled - Per NHL

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by Corral

Yep - blanket no head shots rule is needed. So long as the NHL insists on scrutinizing the intent of the player who delivers the blow, hits to the head will unfortunately remain in the game. When a guy is hit and has to be held as he skates off the rink - its a head blow and the player delivering the hit should be suspended without pay - intentional or not. Much like it is when sticks get into the face and it draws blood - the extra penalty is based on harm to the victim.

No place for this in the game - the onus should be on Giordano to avoid the hit.

But what if he was held up because he couldn’t put weight on his knee, like seemingly happened here.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Corral

No place for this in the game - the onus should be on Giordano to avoid the hit.

No place for a perfectly clean body check with zero intent to injure? Because that's what it was.

[Alpheus]

Originally Posted by Corral

Yep - blanket no pucks to the head rule is needed. So long as the NHL insists on scrutinizing the intent of the player who delivers the shot, pucks to the head will unfortunately remain in the game. When a guy is hit and has to be held as he skates off the rink - its a head blow and the player shooting the puck should be suspended without pay - intentional or not. Much like it is when sticks get into the face and it draws blood - the extra penalty is based on harm to the victim.

No place for this in the game - the onus should be on Giordano to avoid the shot.

See what I did there?

[Robbob]

I thought the Warson hit on Hathaway was more predatory and direct contact with the head and he didn't get any supplemental discipline. I think he was even considered a repeat offender.

IMO the should be nothing more. 5 and the game was more than enough, and you could argue too much.

[Duffalufagus]

He’s getting two games. Ridiculous. But that is what will happen.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

At some point you have to say, look, I can either deliver that check, or let him score a goal. I'm not letting him score a goal just because he's in a vulnerable position. It's the same issue with guys turning into the boards in the hopes that showing you their numbers will make them immune to being hit.

[savemedrzaius]

No reason for Giordano to jump up into him the way he does. He drives his shoulder upwards and seems to catch part of the head.

[Corral]

Originally Posted by direwolf

No place for a perfectly clean body check with zero intent to injure? Because that's what it was.

There is no way to establish whether or not Gio has zero intent to injure. Don't kid yourself.

If that was a Flames player on the receiving end of the check, my bet is you would be outraged.

Same crap with the hits from behind into the boards. Should be automatic suspension without pay. That - and only that - will get rid of this stuff.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

No reason for Giordano to jump up into him the way he does. He drives his shoulder upwards and seems to catch part of the head.

jump up into him? hahaha, what are you watching. He stopped skating, coasted and leaned his shoulder.

Aho's head was buried in his own chest, it was near impossible to avoid clipping him.

Further, it looked like the injury was actually due to knee on knee.

[savemedrzaius]

Looks not good.

[cam_wmh]

You'll have to share, as you stated, jumping part with your youtube freeze framing.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

No reason for Giordano to jump up into him the way he does. He drives his shoulder upwards and seems to catch part of the head.

Jump is a terrible choice of words.

He's literally standing still and is trying to lean into him to separate him from the puck to negate the scoring chance.

The part where he comes off the ice is the physics of the force of the collision, which as has been mentioned over and over - is Aho blinding running into him with no awareness.

[81MC]

I'm shocked a D-man making a perfect play is something the league should be 'rid' of. If this hit is considered not acceptable, I've no idea what sport this is supposed to turn into.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by Corral

Yep - blanket no head shots rule is needed. So long as the NHL insists on scrutinizing the intent of the player who delivers the blow, hits to the head will unfortunately remain in the game. When a guy is hit and has to be held as he skates off the rink - its a head blow and the player delivering the hit should be suspended without pay - intentional or not. Much like it is when sticks get into the face and it draws blood - the extra penalty is based on harm to the victim.

No place for this in the game - the onus should be on Giordano to avoid the hit.

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

No reason for Giordano to jump up into him the way he does. He drives his shoulder upwards and seems to catch part of the head.

It's been said multiple times in the thread already, Gio was planted, ready for the hit and Aho basically ran into him. So while it sucks that he was hurt, there is absolutely no onus on Gio and he couldn't even have avoided the hit since he was basically standing still.

As for the claim that Gio jumped, that's nonsense. He's standing still, bracing for a hit coming and it's the act of bracing that gives the illusion of him jumping after Aho bounces off. Gio is basically braced for pretty much chest to chest impact but Aho looks down and tries a cut move which ends with him taking the shoulder to the head and Gio falling forward and slightly upwards as his momentum carries him.

My initial reaction on the hit was that it wasn't a great looking hit as there was a lot of shoulder to head but after multiple replays, I just don't see what else Gio could've done (other than decide at the very beginning not to take the body).

[savemedrzaius]

Watch the youtube clip from 44 seconds on. Maybe jump is a bad use of words.

He drives his shoulder upwards targeting the head.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Watch the youtube clip from 44 seconds on. Maybe jump is a bad use of words.

He drives his shoulder upwards targeting the head.

Not maybe, it is a terrible way of wording it because it's outright false.

If he's standing still (which he is) he's driving forward, into Aho, who is not at all looking where hes going and rotating his torso.

It is not the way you're trying to spin it at all.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Not maybe, it is a terrible way of wording it because it's outright false.

If he's standing still (which he is) he's driving forward, into Aho, who is not at all looking where hes going and rotating his torso.

It is not the way you're trying to spin it at all.

Anyways jump/drive...it's a headshot.

Way to argue over semantics instead of objectively looking at a play without your homer glasses.

If this was Johnny cutting through the middle and rocked like that would you say it's a clean hit? No way.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Watch the youtube clip from 44 seconds on. Maybe jump is a bad use of words.

He drives his shoulder upwards targeting the head.

He lowers his shoulder to brace/drive into what he expects to be chest/shoulder. Literally the only reason Aho's head is the primary point of contact is because he tries the toe drag and puts his head down while doing so.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Anyways jump/drive...it's a headshot.

Way to argue over semantics instead of objectively looking at a play without your homer glasses.

If this was Johnny cutting through the middle and rocked like that would you say it's a clean hit? No way.

1) It's not semantics. You've used the word jump and dive about a guy who's standing still. Asinine. It's nothing to do with homer glasses, it's you having a factually incorrect take of what you're watching.

2) I've seen multiple Cane and Oiler fans mention "if that was Gaudreau". Johnny is probably the best player in the league at NOT doing things like that. Blindly cutting into the middle staring at the puck with no idea who's in *front* of you. I can't see him ever doing that and if he did, he'd be at fault just like Aho was because the defender was standing still in his path. Johnny can stick-handle with the puck on a string without ever looking down at it. Terrible example to deflect away from the deficiencies in your argument here.

[stone hands]

Maybe it wouldnt have been a headshot if aho didn’t try to toe drag 4 inches in front of Giordano with his head tucked into his chest admiring his beautiful deke