Gulutzan loses his cool at practice

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by cannon7

If you re-read your post where I call you out for the ad hominem you'll see that you didn't counter a single argument I made. Instead you attacked me as a poster.

I re-read it, and I see commentary on your post. On what you said in your post. Nothing personal there. I'm done then.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If they win tonight GG gets no credit

If they lose he gets most of the blame

This is how 95% of CP will react...They lose its because the coach has lost the room, win and its despite of him.

If they play like the second period against LA for the entire game I think GG’d little outburst devserves some credit.

I am looking at the next set of games before the bye week. Tough matchups and a real make or break. Similar to the outburst after the Habs game “we were pathetic. It was a pathetic display” the team turned it around. Treliving needs to find this years version of Stone but this year up front and add a scoring winger this team hopefully gets back in the playoffs

[SportsJunky]

Hrudey on the HNIC panel tonight stated that Gulutzan had been building up to this explosion. He said he blew up on Tuesday and Wednesday at the team during practice as well.

So maybe this wasn’t some planned show as some have suggested here.

[TheFlamesVan]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Hrudey on the HNIC panel tonight stated that Gulutzan had been building up to this explosion. He said he blew up on Tuesday and Wednesday at the team during practice as well.

So maybe this wasn’t some planned show as some have suggested here.

The "planned" thought is idiotic to me. How can it be planned? Does the team always mail it in at practice? So he knew they would? If that's the case, that's the story here.

[SportsJunky]

You don’t think that’s the case though, do you?

[TheFlamesVan]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

You don’t think that’s the case though, do you?

Sounds like it might be a bit of an issue after wins, and was again so he snapped. Thinking he did this calculated melt down just doesn't make any sense.

Edit: but no I don't think the players always have poor practices. which is why I don't think it was "planned".

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

How can anyone say with a straight face that these three players being questioned here 'are not taking this seriously'?

It was a leading question and intended to be 'fun'. The players responded accordingly. It wasn't a matter of them 'not taking it seriously'. That is how the question was given.

The players might have had a good laugh about it afterwards, but that doesn't mean they don't respect Gulutzan.

So what does it mean? Kypreos commented with worry about those reactions in the first intermission tonight, and added that in his day, if Bryan Murray or Mike Keenan had done something similar, it would have put the fear of god in the team, and no one would be laughing about it an hour later.

It was also pointed out that that display was a once-per-season tool.

Clearly the team has reacted well tonight, but time will tell if it can lead to long term consistency, which has eluded the team the last two years.

[DeluxeMoustache]

There was risk of spending this bullet before playing a team that is in their heads.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

There was risk of spending this bullet before playing a team that is in their heads.

Head games aside, if the coaching staff could put together a somewhat competent PP strategy, this game is over. Doesn’t even need to be good, just competent.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Head games aside, if the coaching staff could put together a somewhat competent PP strategy, this game is over. Doesn’t even need to be good, just competent.

Pretty sure their strategy isn't to pass the puck to the other team multiple times and have a fire drill on the back check

Take the hater glasses off and give GG this one

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Pretty sure their strategy isn't to pass the puck to the other team multiple times and have a fire drill on the back check

Take the hater glasses off and give GG this one

Well for the sake of argument, we also can thank the Duck D that reversed and his teammate that wasn’t expecting it, basically handing Johnny the puck, and also the hockey gods and/or Bieksa’s shinpad for the two goals that were frankly more luck than coaching.

Glad to see the team win, by whatever means.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Well for the sake of argument, we also can thank the Duck D that reversed and his teammate that wasn’t expecting it, basically handing Johnny the puck, and also the hockey gods and/or Bieksa’s shinpad for the two goals that were frankly more luck than coaching.

Glad to see the team win, by whatever means.

Yeah, they made mistakes, but the Flames were flying in that period. Gio'sgoal involved luck, but followed a shift of very intense pressure. Ferland's was because Johnny was pressuring as well.

For weeks posters have complained that the coaching staff didn't have the Flames ready to play. They clearly were tonight, but no credit given to the same staff.

[DeluxeMoustache]

For the sake of clarity, I agree they were ready at the start, tonight. No argument there.

And in my opinion the Flames first period goals were lucky, be it capitalizing on a miscue or a lucky bounce on a puck headed wide.

The Ducks 2 goals were arguably more well earned.

I don’t love the coaching staff, based on several factors, but will surely give you that they had a better start than usual.

Heck, if they didn’t after being national headlines, there was going to be huge trouble.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, they made mistakes, but the Flames were flying in that period. Gil's goal involved luck, but followed a shift of very intense pressure. Ferland's was because Johnny was pressuring as well.

For weeks posters have complained that the coaching staff didn't have the Flames ready to play. They clearly were tonight, but no credit given to the same staff.

exactly

come out flat "coaches fault" every damn time
come out flying "all the players"

I am not convinced about GG either but it gets ridiculous sometimes. People are such fanboys of the players they can't bare to blame them other than the select scape goats who get the least ice time.

Matty (in my top 3 on the entire team) almost blew the ####ing game with a really stupid pass on a 4 min PP that should have been conservative. He is young, he will learn.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

For the sake of clarity, I agree they were ready at the start, tonight. No argument there.

And in my opinion the Flames first period goals were lucky, be it capitalizing on a miscue or a lucky bounce on a puck headed wide.

The Ducks 2 goals were arguably more well earned.

I don’t love the coaching staff, based on several factors, but will surely give you that they had a better start than usual.

Heck, if they didn’t after being national headlines, there was going to be huge trouble.

you can't be serious...if you have to try this hard you might just be wrong lol

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Mike F

So what does it mean? Kypreos commented with worry about those reactions in the first intermission tonight, and added that in his day, if Bryan Murray or Mike Keenan had done something similar, it would have put the fear of god in the team, and no one would be laughing about it an hour later.

It was also pointed out that that display was a once-per-season tool.

Clearly the team has reacted well tonight, but time will tell if it can lead to long term consistency, which has eluded the team the last two years.

Perhaps Kypreos was going by the players' reactions without listening to the leading question, as many people in this thread seemed to do? That's my take on it anyway.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by dino7c

you can't be serious...if you have to try this hard you might just be wrong lol

Really, man?

Which is a better goal?
1. Getzlaf slapper - a laser past Smith top corner
2. Gio slapper - headed wide, bounces off Bieksa shin pad and in

Not trying hard, just commenting on what anyone should be able to see. Off you go.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Really, man?

Which is a better goal?
1. Getzlaf slapper - a laser past Smith top corner
2. Gio slapper - headed wide, bounces off Bieksa shin pad and in

Not trying hard, just commenting on what anyone should be able to see. Off you go.

Except the Flames could have had a bunch of other goals in the first. They earned them through overall being the better team.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Except the Flames could have had a bunch of other goals in the first. They earned them through overall being the better team.

That is fair, they were the better team.

Also, and still, the actual goals they managed to get in the first were very, very fortunate

Glad they won, of course

[BruceCody]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

First Playfair, now this. It's always the quiet ones..

Just kidding, this was awesome!