Naked swimming event coming to Calgary wave pool

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by Kjesse

Do they allow wearing sunglasses? That might prevent some guys from getting the boot.

Are there Google sunglasses?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Thats why I love their rules. They're stuck between old school and "modern". Men must be nude, women do not, BUT if you identify as something else, well then you are okay to do whatever makes you comfortable.....

So why not just let everyone do whatever makes them comfortable? And why not just let everyone have the same rights & protections from lewd conduct, not just women, as is currently the case with rule #1?

For someone who actively disparages anyone who even casually mentions social injustice or equal rights, it feels like you’re trying very hard to shoehorn a equality debate into this.

Who cares what a random nudist group makes as their rules so long as they aren’t excluding people? You’re not going to go to it.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

For someone who actively disparages anyone who even casually mentions social injustice or equal rights, it feels like you’re trying very hard to shoehorn a equality debate into this.

Who cares what a random nudist group makes as their rules so long as they aren’t excluding people? You’re not going to go to it.

I love how you've gone from 0 to 100 over nothing.

I am merely pointing out the stupidity of their rules and and also how they're treating men and women very differently, all while pushing an agenda of inclusivity and being "free" (while including rules for those whose genders are fluid). As Zamler correctly noted, you can't let people decide their gender (including a 3rd option) all while having different rules for each gender.

Go full SJW or go old school, one or the other - they're trying to have their cake and eat it too.

[Amethyst]

Are they pushing an agenda of inclusivity?

[taco.vidal]

Some of the reactions to this event are pretty funny. Lots of grown men in this thread acting like boys going through puberty who are giggling when talking about male and female anatomy.

Its also amazing how prudish people are about nudity.

[Wormius]

I thought there was only one person acting prudish about nudity - everybody else was kind of irritated by one of the rules of this particular nudist group, which I feel brought it on themselves by singling out genders in some rules, where they could have easily made the rules to not include any gender pronouns and this wouldn't have been brought up.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ducay

I love how you've gone from 0 to 100 over nothing.

I am merely pointing out the stupidity of their rules and and also how they're treating men and women very differently, all while pushing an agenda of inclusivity and being "free" (while including rules for those whose genders are fluid). As Zamler correctly noted, you can't let people decide their gender (including a 3rd option) all while having different rules for each gender.

Go full SJW or go old school, one or the other - they're trying to have their cake and eat it too.

Why can’t they try to have their cake and eat it to?

It’s a nudist group putting on a small event for nudists, unless you’re a big part of the nudist community I’m not even sure why you’d care what rules they have. Maybe they built those rules based on previous problems, who knows?

It’s just funny watching someone who hates anytime someone makes a big deal out of inclusiveness or equal rights suddenly jump on the bandwagon because.... a nudist event seems discriminatory, all while using the phrase “SJW” in earnest.

Seems pretty disingenuous.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Why can’t they try to have their cake and eat it to?

New gear grinder. Manhunt: Unabomber ruining this saying for me.

I agree with the rest of your points Pepsi.

[TheSutterDynasty]

Sometimes I look at girls who have their clothes on.

But if I go to this and I'm looking at a girl with her clothes off, I get kicked out?

I thought the whole nudist movement was to 'normalize' it.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Why can’t they try to have their cake and eat it to?

It’s a nudist group putting on a small event for nudists, unless you’re a big part of the nudist community I’m not even sure why you’d care what rules they have. Maybe they built those rules based on previous problems, who knows?

It’s just funny watching someone who hates anytime someone makes a big deal out of inclusiveness or equal rights suddenly jump on the bandwagon because.... a nudist event seems discriminatory, all while using the phrase “SJW” in earnest.

Seems pretty disingenuous.

While I couldn't care less about what rules they have or don't have, given zero chance of me attending, however.... again, the irony is having discriminatory policies while professing to act in a completely inclusive manner which the event is based on, that just so happens to be totally opposite to their stated nature and goals of inclusivity.

Of course it is a private group open to enforce whatever rules they want. They could ban whoever they want for whatever reason, but acting like they are trying to knock down societal borders while offering rights to different groups based solely on those preconceived borders is pretty laughable. Pretty much summarizes the modern approach quite well. Be inclusive as long as it suits your needs.

[Thor]

I wonder what European nudist groups would think about their rules.

[Tsawwassen]

If people want to go, great. If people don't want to go, that's great too. Freedom of choice. I think some will wonder if this event will be "wet n wild."

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Tsawwassen

If people want to go, great. If people don't want to go, that's great to. Freedom of choice. I think some will wonder if this event will be "wet n wild."

That's why I love Germany

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ducay

While I couldn't care less about what rules they have or don't have, given zero chance of me attending, however.... again, the irony is having discriminatory policies while professing to act in a completely inclusive manner which the event is based on, that just so happens to be totally opposite to their stated nature and goals of inclusivity.

Of course it is a private group open to enforce whatever rules they want. They could ban whoever they want for whatever reason, but acting like they are trying to knock down societal borders while offering rights to different groups based solely on those preconceived borders is pretty laughable. Pretty much summarizes the modern approach quite well. Be inclusive as long as it suits your needs.

Here’s a Corsi-length post just to put whatever point you’re scrambling to make to bed:

1. I get that you’re using this as an excuse to rail against modern society and equality. The problem is, you’re placing the onus of all inclusivity on them, when they don’t position themselves as being inclusive in the first place. Their main tenants are related to body positivity, regardless of what that body is. It’s not about equal rights or equal treatment, it’s about feeling comfortable in a state of dress that is less-so than what you can normally experience in public. For men, that’s fully naked, for women, that’s at least topless. Makes sense? Great.

2. Again, since their stated nature and goals are not inclusivity (as you stated), but body positivity, your entire premise is an obviously misguided attempt at being whatever the social conservative version of an SJW is (which seems to be be often for you, just from my observation). This is further evidenced by you bringing up the Pride Parade, which in purpose, format, and history has so little to do with this event that it boils down to either A) a monumental stretch spurred on by a need to shoehorn in a debate that doesn’t belong B) a total misunderstanding of both events. B is more likely, as you state “but acting like they are trying to knock down societal borders while offering rights to different groups based solely on those preconceived borders is pretty laughable,” which in itself is laughable, because the societal borders they are very specifically referring to are the ones against nudity, not the ones about male/female equality. There are plenty of societal borders, did you think they were trying to address all of them? Lol!

3. The last, super obvious point where you’re clearly misunderstanding what you’re reading, or lying about what the statements are to push whatever confusing agenda, is this:

It's not just the mandate that men be nude and women don't have to, but also:

Rule #1: If either a woman or a lifeguard reports an issue regarding your conduct you will be immediately escorted out. You will have NO chance to plead your case or explain yourself.

That’s an interesting quote, since you must have gotten it from the website. So why did you omit the actual rule #1 and substitute the clarification put in afterwards?

Here’s the actual rule (and the part you edited to make it seem like Rule #1 was different):

1. Respect of all persons attending is required at all times. At no time is it acceptable to negatively impact someone’s experience by actions, words, or staring. If someone else feels uncomfortable or feels that their safety is compromised because of your actions, words, or staring, you are in violation of rule #1. Your intentions are irrelevant to the safety and comfort of others.

... (an aside posted after the rules
To be really clear on Rule #1: If either a woman or a lifeguard reports an issue regarding your conduct you will be immediately escorted out. You will have NO chance to plead your case or explain yourself.

It’s pretty clear that Rule #1 is non-discriminatory. It’s also clear that clarification was provided for a group of people that needed some clarification. Perhaps there have been previous problems, perhaps men seem to take the rule different and need the clarification. You’re not a member or an organiser, so how would you know?

It’s just very bizarre that someone would misquote and misrepresent the rules and purpose of a nudist group to shoehorn in some weird narrative about how it all ties into “modern” equality and the pride parade. All while starting it by pretending they actually care about that equality in the first place, and later coming out stating that they don’t.

It’s a private nudist event, not an equal rights march. Just weird lol.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Thor

That's why I love Germany

Germany and it's long and storied history of the phrase "live and let live"

[Thor]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Germany and it's long and storied history of the phrase "live and let live"

You think its maybe time to let go of something that ended over 80 years ago?

[DownInFlames]

I wonder who's actually being discriminated against here. Can there be that many men who want to attend this event, stay clothed, and not creepily stare at naked bodies?

[stampsx2]

Haha. Nude swimming at southland? This is going to be one giant sausage party.

This should be funny.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

Haha. Nude swimming at southland? This is going to be one giant sausage party.

This should be funny.

That’s not really the point of the event. Whether there is some imbalance in genders attending isn’t really important. It’s like saying model train conventions are sausage parties.

[MikeN]

I think it is a fantastic idea, people need to stop sexualizing the human body. This event is not going to be a huge boner fest nor is it going to be a huge orgy. As for kids being there, who cares, you need to stop teaching children that the human body is this horrible thing that they should be afraid of.

Hell I have been to nude beaches all over the world, the people who chose to go to these are not always men, in fact I have seen more women at these beaches then I have seen men, But no one is going to these events to look at other people its plain and simple.

And for the people who are all "ew no bathing suits" So you are telling me that your bathing suit has a bio layer to protect you from everyone else? That's amazing.

People need to grow up and stop acting like a nipple or a penis is going to end the world, because its not.