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Gulutzan on Travis Hamonic's lower-body injury...didn't rule him out for Montreal on Friday: "We got the two points and it was a little bit of a precaution. A little bit of a precaution with his groin, so we'll see how he is tomorrow."
Good to hear...i knew it wasnt a shot that did the damage, his leg twisted weird in front of the net, he went off and never returned.
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Tough break, he was playing some damn good hockey. Hopefully just a blip. In the interim this is another opportunity to develop players on the farm and show Bartkowski how over his NHL career is.
Tough break as he was shaking his early season blunders and really rounding into form, showing what we expected when the trade happened. Hopefully it's just a tweak that's good in a couple days. Luckily this probably couldn't have come at a better time in the schedule: Montreal on Friday then five days off.
Hoping we see Andersson on the second pairing on Friday if Hamonic can't go - Andersson has been absolutely dummying the AHL.
Part of the logic is similar to the Bartkowski v. Kulak conundrum: if you have a choice between a guy you know is brutal (Bartkowski) and a guy who could be either brutal, average, or good (Kulak), you have to take the chance on the unproven player. As we've seen with Kulak, he's better than brutal and it's worked out.
With Stone, we know he's a third-pairing defenseman. Maybe Andersson is a third-pairing defenseman...but maybe he's already capable of second-pairing minutes? To me it's worth finding out rather than putting yourself at risk with Stone who needs to be carried on any pairing above 3. Plus, Andersson actually tries to move the puck to tape rather than boards/glass.
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I can't see them putting Bartkowski in considering is shoots left and Gulutzan has the bizarre obsession with pairing handedness. Works in the Flames' favor this time most likely.
I can't see them putting Bartkowski in considering is shoots left and Gulutzan has the bizarre obsession with pairing handedness. Works in the Flames' favor this time most likely.
Bizarre? It makes perfect sense.
Does it make more sense if a gold medal winning coach explains it?
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There's more to a good pairing than a LH and RH shot. It's a good theory and if you have LH and RH defenders with chemistry it's more optimum but even at that Babcock doesn't adhere to it religiously.
Mentioned this in the PGT but they should call up Andersson (assuming Hamonic sits on Friday), even if its just for one game. Give the kid a nice Xmas bonus, reward him for his great play in Stockton.
There's more to a good pairing than a LH and RH shot. It's a good theory and if you have LH and RH defenders with chemistry it's more optimum but even at that Babcock doesn't adhere to it religiously.
Oh of course there is. It just isn't difficult to see that it is preferred and has built in advantages.
Does it make more sense if a gold medal winning coach explains it?
NO, because this gold medal winning coach who had to choose between two top pairing defensemen of roughly equal skill to be the 6th defense men chose to consider handedness as a tie breaker created this handedness myth.
You take the higher skill guy every time then handedness can break ties.
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Mentioned this in the PGT but they should call up Andersson (assuming Hamonic sits on Friday), even if its just for one game. Give the kid a nice Xmas bonus, reward him for his great play in Stockton.
Agreed. Bartkowski shouldn’t see the ice again unless multiple bodies go down but I would call up Andersson, Kylington, and maybe even Witherspoon before dressing Bart again
NO, because this gold medal winning coach who had to choose between two top pairing defensemen of roughly equal skill to be the 6th defense men chose to consider handedness as a tie breaker created this handedness myth.
You take the higher skill guy every time then handedness can break ties.
And GG has a choice of Brodie versus Hamilton for top pairing. Hamilton wins on merit alone but handedness also favours him.
Then down the line, to switch Brodie over, you have to switch someone else. Hamonic or Stone have to play off-hand.
NO, because this gold medal winning coach who had to choose between two top pairing defensemen of roughly equal skill to be the 6th defense men chose to consider handedness as a tie breaker created this handedness myth.
You take the higher skill guy every time then handedness can break ties.
Paving ways for a "The Mike Babcock woes/"whoa!"s extravaganza thread"
The fact Hamonic might play and that there's only one game before the break pretty much rule out a call up I guess. Bartkowski is capable of a good game, IMO - he just isn't reliable game in/game out.
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