2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by mcjmcj

To get paid 6x6, you actually need to show some offensive ability or threat to score. Backlund is a great number 3 center, but lacks the grit and offensive ability to be a true number 2 center.

Regarding the Flames in general, speed kills- the Flames have little if any speed. Without speed, I hate to say it you need girt which outside Of Tkachuk and Gio, they are sorely lacking. If lucky, the Flames will make the playoffs, but without a true identity they are going nowhere.

Advanced stats wise, and possession wise, the 3M line is one of the best lines in the league, not just on our team, with Backlund leading the way. Last year he put up 53 points, which is perfectly reasonable for a second-liner who finished fourth in Selke voting ahead of Toews. Calling him a third-liner is selling him short.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

If the Flames are sitting out close to trade deadline. Backlund will fetch a 1st pick and more. Its a no brainer you make the move, and see if he resigns in the summer 4.75M-5.25M 4x5 years.

If we trade Backlund for a 1st round pick, that plus the Brouwer signing, along with the giving away of high picks for Hamilton and Hamonic, would be the final nail in the coffin, as I see it.

[SuperMatt18]

I love Backlund...but at the same time the guy will be 29 by the time this next contract kicks into play. Meaning if he wants a 7/8 year deal you might not want to give him that much term.

If he accepts a 4-5 year deal between 5-6 million per year it's a no brainer, but anything longer or more expensive then that and you have to start to think about a potential trade.

If you can get top prospects and/or a mid-round 1st round for him then maybe you look at it if you are out of the playoff picture.

Personally I think a 5 year ~$28M dollar deal gets announced in January.

[SeanCharles]

I can't believe that some of us fans think Backlund won't be back.

We have 3 good NHL level centermen and not much else in the system. Lazar, F. Hamilton and Stajan are not going to be relied upon next year (if the latter two get re-signed) to be our 3rd line center. They can barely play regularly as 4th liners. Hrivik may be lighting up the A but he is 26 and should be. He will not be ready for top 9 minutes next year.

Our only other center prospect with any hope of making the team next year is Dube and in all honesty I see him more as a winger as his game is similar to Bennett in that he is strong on the boards and hard on the forecheck.

Even if we had Hrivik or Dube as our 3rd what happens if Jankowski or Monahan get hurt?

We need to retain Backlund because without him our center ice depth goes from a strength to a dearth. Not only that Backs loves it here and will likely sign under market value like the other leaders on our team have done (Gio, Gaudreau).

You don't want to bring in a free agent cause they will cost you an extra million a year or an extra year on the contract and we have no idea if they will gel with the team (we don't need another Brouwer).

It would be foolish to not retain a guy who loves it here, plays hard every shift, is a defensive dynamo and stabilizes our team down the middle.

He will get re-signed and then we can debate the contract but no point in discussing the notion of him not coming back. Even Treliving has said how he is a key guy on the team, something he didn't realize until he got here.

You don't turn around and let a guy walk after giving him such high praise.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by mcjmcj

To get paid 6x6, you actually need to show some offensive ability or threat to score. Backlund is a great number 3 center, but lacks the grit and offensive ability to be a true number 2 center.

Regarding the Flames in general, speed kills- the Flames have little if any speed. Without speed, I hate to say it you need girt which outside Of Tkachuk and Gio, they are sorely lacking. If lucky, the Flames will make the playoffs, but without a true identity they are going nowhere.

You think Backlund is a #3 centre?

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

If we trade Backlund for a 1st round pick, that plus the Brouwer signing, along with the giving away of high picks for Hamilton and Hamonic, would be the final nail in the coffin, as I see it.

You wouldn't trade him if the Flames were sitting outside of a playoff spot come deadline?

[sureLoss]

Flames scouting the Sabres yet again:

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[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

You wouldn't trade him if the Flames were sitting outside of a playoff spot come deadline?

Just to get a first round pick, No. I consider him an essential player in our defense and offence going forward.

I am already of the opinion there is a good chance that we will not make the playoffs, and continuing to build on our strengths is essential. I believe to lose Backlund would be a serious step backward.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Just to get a first round pick, No. I consider him an essential player in our defense and offence going forward.

I am already of the opinion, there is a good chance that we will not make the playoffs, and continuing to build on our strengths is essential. I believe to lose Backlund would be a serious step backward.

If it happens i just know im going to hate the price

[Sutter_in_law]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Just to get a first round pick, No. I consider him an essential player in our defense and offence going forward.

I am already of the opinion there is a good chance that we will not make the playoffs, and continuing to build on our strengths is essential. I believe to lose Backlund would be a serious step backward.

if you think there is a good chance we miss the playoffs then what is the harm? Trading him for future assets doesn't preclude him from signing with us after this season.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by Sutter_in_law

if you think there is a good chance we miss the playoffs then what is the harm? Trading him for future assets doesn't preclude him from signing with us after this season.

Yes, but it involves a greater risk of losing him. You still have time before the summer to sign him. Look what taking the risk of losing Byron by making him a free agent did for us.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I believe to lose Backlund would be a serious step backward.

Losing Backlund for nothing would be worse.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by New Era

Losing Backlund for nothing would be worse.

True...but so far Treliving's greatest ability seems to be in making reasonable deals in resigning players, and I would hope that both sides are reasonable in this instance.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

True...but so far Treliving's greatest ability seems to be in making reasonable deals in resigning players, and I would hope that both sides are reasonable in this instance.

He’s also made short work of players he wanted to retain. He signed Giordano to an extension the summer before his contract expired. I’m not saying because that happened, it’s a clear indicator that Tree doesn’t want to re-sign Backlund...but it is interesting.

The emergence of Jankowski may weigh heavily on this decision as well.

[Redlan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

You think Backlund is a #3 centre?

I do. On a cup contending/winning team, Backlund is the best 3rd line center in the league.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Redlan

I do. On a cup contending/winning team, Backlund is the best 3rd line center in the league.

Please see my post at the top of the page.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Just to get a first round pick, No. I consider him an essential player in our defense and offence going forward.

I am already of the opinion there is a good chance that we will not make the playoffs, and continuing to build on our strengths is essential. I believe to lose Backlund would be a serious step backward.

How far can this team really step back as they are a bubble team currently outside of the playoffs? I certainly don't think they fall back to Buffalo, Arizona, Florida bad without him so I personally don't see much of a step backward. Is the team good enough with him as their 2nd line center? I would say no and apparently you do as well as you don't think they will make the playoffs so why would you want to pay him more money? He's not getting better and will likely decline in a year or two. Simply doesn't make a lot of sense to me and I'm just happy that draft pick was salvaged into a useful player for the past three seasons and if you can get another 1st round pick for him I say you take it and move on. Any team that signs him for a 6 x $6 is going to have pretty disappointed fans when they they see what that money is getting them for offensive production.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Advanced stats wise, and possession wise, the 3M line is one of the best lines in the league, not just on our team, with Backlund leading the way. Last year he put up 53 points, which is perfectly reasonable for a second-liner who finished fourth in Selke voting ahead of Toews. Calling him a third-liner is selling him short.

The only season he has done so. Close the year before to 50 and is trending to be below 50 once again this season. He is a career 40 pt guy. He has a long list of injury trouble as well, though thankfully he has been OK the last couple years.

He will be 29 in 3 months, meaning any extension sees him turn 30 in year 1 of that deal, so any 6 year deal is staring directly at him declining after 2 or 3 of those 6.

The amount of risk in extending Backlund to anything past 3 years is real and large.

So if he is not signed by the TD, Treliving HAS to move him (regardless of the teams position at that time) as there is no way you let an asset like that walk for nothing in the off-season.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Redlan

I do. On a cup contending/winning team, Backlund is the best 3rd line center in the league.

He should be, because he’s likely one of the best 2nd line centres in the league also.


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[Anduril]

Treliving hasn't shown much variation in changing salary amounts on longer contracts, but is it possible that Backlund gets a long term deal to stay in Calgary while still making respectable amounts each year? Something like a

6.0
5.5
5.0
4.5
3.5
3
3
It's on the higher end than what I'd like to see when it comes to the latter years but if we're seeing what's acceptable it's not a bad idea to overestimate. Basically comes down to lowering the caphit for the next 3 years while having an excess in the latter parts. AAV caphit comes to 4.35M for 7 years.

Or maybe I'm just dreaming that I'll get to keep wearing my Backlund jersey for a long time.