[PGT] Predators 2 - Flames 0

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Dion

Nothing personal but i'm not frustrated. Just curious as to how you could comment on a game you didn't watch.

Have a good evening

Fair enough.

Evening sir!

[81MC]

I often find myself wondering why we have such poor net front presence when we have possession of the puck on the PP. I'm guessing it's part of the system, behind the net, up the boards to the D...sure. But frustrating when we have a guy battling for possession, with no reasonable option to throw it out front.
Flames played well, liked the grit. Stone is great, Bennett looking proper, Backlund continues being awesome. Just gotta sink some pucks. Maybe even on the PP?!??

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by zamler

Failed PP DEFINITELY cost us the game.

Fixed your post

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Dion

Nothing personal but i'm not frustrated. Just curious as to how you could comment on a game you didn't watch.

Have a good evening

Advanced stats guys do it all the time.

[Caged Great]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The coaching staff makes zero real adjustments to their game plan - same mediocrity.

The only way to change how things operate is for the coaching staff to make adjustments or to make adjustments to the coaching staff.

Horrible hockey from a team that should be far better than this.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

I'm calling bs on this. There was movement. Brodie and Gio switched at the top multiple times. Monahan cycled out to the blue line and passed it off for the Gio one timer. The box shifted down and Gaudreau and Monahan passed behind the net to set up a one timer in the slot by Ferland. That's three different looks just off the top of my head.

I hate Brouwer on the PP and I would prefer Hamilton or Gio on the first unit with Tkachuk too but claims like no movement or complaints about the breakout don't mesh with what I see on the ice.

I saw a couple of point shots from Gio but with only one guy in front. The Ferland set up was a good one but those quick passing plays should be happening more often.

5 on 3 needs to have more plays down low IMO.

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

Not sure if anyone saw the graphic, but it said "Nashville Predators points after 31 games last year was 33."

Flames have 35 after 33.

We all know how the Preds did last year and where they are now.

I'm not trying to say the Flames are on the fast track to making a run to Game 6 of the SCF, more pointing out how things change in this league. I'm sure Preds fans wanted Laviolette out last year after their start. I'm sure fans were worried about a lost season. Things change and this is a long ass season.

The Flames aren't out of the playoff mix. They're not doomed if they don't make a change right now.

For as hot as their scoring was a few weeks ago, they are as cold right now. They out played the best team in the Western conference, hit 4 posts and couldn't buy a goal tonight. It sucks that it happened, but these are the ups and downs of a season. It's just the nature of this marathon that is a season.

To say they didn't play well tonight is foolish on your part. And right now, it should be more about how they're playing. They have undeniably turned a corner in their own end in the last couple of weeks and while it looks like it's come at the expense of scoring, they are still creating the chances. Pucks will go in.

I've been sharing that kind of optimism, but the issue is that this team can't find consistency even if they had it thrown in their faces. Back in november they seemed to have turned a corner, and then bam, they go 20 PPs without scoring, they go cold as ice and drop down the standings showing all kinds of ineptitude. That's not what consiststently good teams do.

The flames do this all the time, putting themselves behind the eight ball having to play catch up, and it's infuriating for me as a fan since it's completely unnecessary. They have all the tools to avoid doing this. They have been losing games they should have won all season long. Using last year's preds as a comparison is the epitome of cherry picking since that team barely squeezed into the playoffs. I'm not sure the flames will this year.

[monkeyman]

Watching the Flames power play set up is like watching paint dry, super slow, little movement and absolutely no creativity. It makes it super easy to defend against.

[KipperFaNaTic]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

I'm calling bs on this. There was movement. Brodie and Gio switched at the top multiple times. Monahan cycled out to the blue line and passed it off for the Gio one timer. The box shifted down and Gaudreau and Monahan passed behind the net to set up a one timer in the slot by Ferland. That's three different looks just off the top of my head.

I hate Brouwer on the PP and I would prefer Hamilton or Gio on the first unit with Tkachuk too but claims like no movement or complaints about the breakout don't mesh with what I see on the ice.

Yes you are right there was some movement, however, I did not see any assertive, fast, confusing, cohesive movement on that powerplay. All the movement was slow and tentative. It was just the point passing down low, passing back to the point, and then try a slapshot from the point. Which is fine, however, on a 5-3 there should be more creativity.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I can discuss the stat line and lack of continued scoring. Or the 0 for PP.

Probably other things as well

If you want to discuss the stat line would you like to discuss the perfect 3/3 PK that looked aggressive and limited Nashville chances.

Or would you like to discuss the shots being 32 - 28 for Calgary in a game where the home team controlled most of the play?

Or would you like to discuss the Flames out hitting a physical Preds team 14 - 7?

Or would you like to discuss the scoring chances that favoured the Flames?

Or do you only want to discuss the negatives?

[zamler]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

Using last year's preds as a comparison is the epitome of cherry picked since that team barely squeezed into the playoffs. I'm not sure the flames will this year.

Most every year a team stumbles into the playoffs and makes some noise or even gets to the final. Like you said cherry picking.

This team is not built to back into the playoffs and hopefully go on a fluke run we're supposed to be better.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

I saw a couple of point shots from Gio but with only one guy in front. The Ferland set up was a good one but those quick passing plays should be happening more often.

5 on 3 needs to have more plays down low IMO.

Agree, and may be pass the puck quicker instead of holding on to the puck forever. They should have set plays for 5 on 3 so they don't need to think about it while trying to execute.

[zamler]

Next time we're up 2 men go with 3 on 3 instead.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The coaching staff makes zero real adjustments to their game plan - same mediocrity.

The only way to change how things operate is for the coaching staff to make adjustments or to make adjustments to the coaching staff.

Horrible hockey from a team that should be far better than this.

That is not the definition of insanity. Please stop using that expression, it is quite poor.

I agree with the rest of your post.

[dino7c]

Pred beat Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary

13-1

not a bad trip

[kevman]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

I've been sharing that kind of optimism, but the issue is that this team can't find consistency even if they had it thrown in their faces.

I'm worried about what's going to happen when they stop playing well for a bit. If they're generally playing well (excluding the PP) and can't find a way to win, what's going to happen when they start to slump?

They've lost ground on every team in the West except Arizona in the last few weeks. I'm still optimistic - it's more fun that way - but man, this has been a frustrating few weeks.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by zamler

Next time we're up 2 men go with 3 on 3 instead.

This might actually works.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by kevman

If you want to discuss the stat line would you like to discuss the perfect 3/3 PK that looked aggressive and limited Nashville chances.

Or would you like to discuss the shots being 32 - 28 for Calgary in a game where the home team controlled most of the play?

Or would you like to discuss the Flames out hitting a physical Preds team 14 - 7?

Or would you like to discuss the scoring chances that favoured the Flames?

Or do you only want to discuss the negatives?

Or would you like to discuss the actual score and why we lost? Crazy eh

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Pred beat Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary

13-1

not a bad trip

Western Canada is rapidly turning into free points for teams to come and pick up.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

The coaching staff makes zero real adjustments to their game plan - same mediocrity.

The only way to change how things operate is for the coaching staff to make adjustments or to make adjustments to the coaching staff.

Horrible hockey from a team that should be far better than this.

Agree with everything, except that is not the definition of insanity. Pet peeve of mine. It's how Einstein described insanity.