12-04-2017, 11:19 PM
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#221
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Fan960 guys seem to think something is off...might need a change.
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Wow they are really on top of things.
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12-04-2017, 11:28 PM
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#222
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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unexceptkable lol robert on the fan960 right now
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12-04-2017, 11:31 PM
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#223
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Originally Posted by Barca
unexceptkable lol robert on the fan960 right now
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I usually roll my eyes at Robert and wonder why they take his calls every night, but’s hes spot on tonight.
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12-04-2017, 11:32 PM
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#224
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
I usually roll my eyes at Robert and wonder why they take his calls every night, but’s hes spot on tonight.
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he's fired up tonight, but i need subtitles sometimes.
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12-04-2017, 11:34 PM
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#225
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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I miss the days when teams feared playing in the Saddledome.
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12-04-2017, 11:34 PM
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#226
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
sad about the fact that we don't have our first round draft pick.
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in otherside feel good a little bit, because we have best D-corp in the league
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12-04-2017, 11:37 PM
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#227
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Mclellan called one in the 3rd on Saturday and it seemed to do the trick. Settled things down a bit at least. But since you specifically said 2nd period I guess that may be true.
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Pretty extreme case...almost blowing a 6-1 lead in the third lol...as I said timeouts are rarely used these days because of no wanting to lose a challenge.
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Last edited by dino7c; 12-04-2017 at 11:41 PM.
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12-04-2017, 11:42 PM
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#228
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damn onions
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I too find it unlikely that a 30 second timeout is the cure all silver bullet to automatically turn things around. I mean it might work and it’s better than doing nothing, which is seemingly what Gulutzan does, but I just am not sure it matters.
I do find it strange though that in all the games we have seen him coach. I don’t recall him ever actually getting angry with his players- and it’s not like there hasn’t been opportunity...
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12-04-2017, 11:45 PM
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#229
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Dave Tippet speculation out there?
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12-04-2017, 11:45 PM
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#230
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Lifetime Suspension
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Maybe it's just me but a coach usually does coach stuff, like talking to his players.
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12-04-2017, 11:46 PM
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#231
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Mclellan called one in the 3rd on Saturday and it seemed to do the trick. Settled things down a bit at least. But since you specifically said 2nd period I guess that may be true.
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What would he even say? It's not like he talks to them during the game anyways.
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12-04-2017, 11:47 PM
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#232
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Franchise Player
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The story of that game for me was the Flames' inability to capitalize on an insane amount of scoring chances in the first 25 minutes of the game. They had multiple odd man rushes, 2 on 1s down low, pucks come to them right out front, and only one goal to show for it.
The first Flyers goal was nobody's fault, really. Macdonald is pretty well covered and just flips the puck to the net into a crowd, it bounces off a leg right onto Raffl's stick and bam, in before anyone can react. Second goal is mostly on Smith; it wasn't a huge stinker but it didn't have much pace and frankly, you're usually okay to give up an off-balance half wound shot from the blue line, it's a perimeter low-threat puck. Third goal is Brodie getting caught in the neutral zone, totally his fault and put Hamonic in a terrible spot. Fourth goal is an insane skill play by Couturier to redirect the puck to Simmonds, I don't blame anyone for that, that's one where you tip your hat to a great play. Fifth goal probably doesn't matter, but it's either on Tkachuk for letting his man go to the front or Kulak for doing absolutely nothing. Either take the guy in the crease out, or you'd better be sure you get the puck before it gets to him.
At the end of the day, the shots were 45-21 Flames, and while some of that is score effects, they were winning the flow of play for the whole game, even early on. Shots were like 12-4 and 21-11 if I remember right, while it was still tied. So it's a game they should have won, and therefore (even if it's frustrating to watch) not one that should be making people concerned about the team. Play that game again and they probably lead 3-1 in the second, and it's a different game altogether.
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12-04-2017, 11:49 PM
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#233
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Erie
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Originally Posted by Crazy Bacon Legs
I’m not at the point of panic yet. But I’m getting close.
It’s like that feeling you get when you’re driving through the mountains, and it’s been raining but it’s right near the point of freezing rain. You’re going the speed limit, but it’s just a little bit slick. The kids are in the back seat and they are yelling and jumping around. You bark at them to put their seatbelts on, but they won’t listen. The dog ate a cactus and is vomiting needles everywhere. You feel a scurrying by your right foot and look down. It’s the stupid hedgehog! One of the kids has let the danged hedgehog out and it’s running around by your feet. The hedgehog jumps on the gas pedal and you swear it actually tries to push it down. The car accelerates. One of the children throws their Slurpee at the windshield. Why is the stupid kid even drinking a Slurpee? It’s freezing outside! You begin to doubt your wife’s fidelity. Can these really be your progeny? Did these little demons really spring forth from your loins?
The car picks up speed and the rear end starts to fishtail. The hedgehog starts screaming evil incantations at you. There is slushy cola everywhere, and it drips down the back of your neck as the car begins to slide. It’s so chilly down the back of your neck! That’s the worst!
You slide toward the guardrail and you can’t see if that’s ice ahead, or super grippy rubber. You hope for the super grippy rubber, but you’re not sure if that’s actually a thing they put on mountain roads. Your heart skips a beat, and you begin to wonder just how squishy the rocks over that cliff ahead are. Are the rocks squishier than you? Doubtful. You know you still have a chance to make it, but it’s not a very good one. Maybe if you throw that evil hedgehog out the window in time, you could adjust and get back on the road and cruise to safety. A sacrifice is needed, but what will appease the gods who so obviously hate you?
It’s like that, except with hockey.
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Quit blaming the gods, be a better parent. Tough love baby.
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12-04-2017, 11:55 PM
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#234
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
I too find it unlikely that a 30 second timeout is the cure all silver bullet to automatically turn things around. I mean it might work and it’s better than doing nothing, which is seemingly what Gulutzan does, but I just am not sure it matters.
I do find it strange though that in all the games we have seen him coach. I don’t recall him ever actually getting angry with his players- and it’s not like there hasn’t been opportunity...
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As a coach, you call that timeout to let your players know your head is still in the game, you still feel like and think you can win, you have maybe a small breakout pattern or a dzone coverage drawn up on your board just so the boys have something hockey to focus on other than how badly they're getting whipped... etc, etc.
But most importantly, you need to show that bit of leadership. It sets the tone for your players - it's like pushing a big red reset button on the momentum and emotional curves of your team. People complaining about him never calling a timeout are not doing so because they think he will send out the perfect line or draw up the perfect play, they want him to spend a minute to talk to the boys who go into emotional wreck mode if things go badly. Which has particularly been the case for this entire homestand.
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12-04-2017, 11:57 PM
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#235
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Scoring Winger
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Recorded game. Just finished watching. Another loss to a bottom feeder...we in trouble boys. Can't imagine there's much more to add here that hasn't already been said. So disappointed. Something has to change ASAP before it's too late.
Fire Gulutzan.
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12-05-2017, 12:00 AM
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#236
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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We were sitting next to a box full of young Sikh guys, like 15 of them or so. Someone said that they all work for a company that owns liquor stores in Calgary. They were all talking in Punjabi and cheering very loud. It was a bit annoying, at first, but then at some point we started to understand their cheering patterns and it has become really funny. This was the only entertainment I've got tonight, unfortunately.
Whoever saw the good game tonight by the Flames must have been looking away. Smith let two really bad ones in. Everyone else was not helping either. How could anyone call a 2:5 loss after a 5:7 loss a "good game"? I am furious...
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12-05-2017, 12:23 AM
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#237
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: So Long, Bannatyne
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
The story of that game for me was the Flames' inability to capitalize on an insane amount of scoring chances in the first 25 minutes of the game. They had multiple odd man rushes, 2 on 1s down low, pucks come to them right out front, and only one goal to show for it.
The first Flyers goal was nobody's fault, really. Macdonald is pretty well covered and just flips the puck to the net into a crowd, it bounces off a leg right onto Raffl's stick and bam, in before anyone can react. Second goal is mostly on Smith; it wasn't a huge stinker but it didn't have much pace and frankly, you're usually okay to give up an off-balance half wound shot from the blue line, it's a perimeter low-threat puck. Third goal is Brodie getting caught in the neutral zone, totally his fault and put Hamonic in a terrible spot. Fourth goal is an insane skill play by Couturier to redirect the puck to Simmonds, I don't blame anyone for that, that's one where you tip your hat to a great play. Fifth goal probably doesn't matter, but it's either on Tkachuk for letting his man go to the front or Kulak for doing absolutely nothing. Either take the guy in the crease out, or you'd better be sure you get the puck before it gets to him.
At the end of the day, the shots were 45-21 Flames, and while some of that is score effects, they were winning the flow of play for the whole game, even early on. Shots were like 12-4 and 21-11 if I remember right, while it was still tied. So it's a game they should have won, and therefore (even if it's frustrating to watch) not one that should be making people concerned about the team. Play that game again and they probably lead 3-1 in the second, and it's a different game altogether.
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I cannot agree with your assessment here. Tonight was my first game at the Dome in over a month and what stood out glaringly was our horrific defensive zone play.
On the first goal against, three players focused on the man at the point, leaving at least a two-on-one down low in the crease (looked like three flyers in that area). This was the result of blown coverage by Gio who left his man down low to go chasing to the point. All of this occurred less than a minute after we scored and with less than a minute left in the period. Unacceptable in any facet.
The second goal was a result of two lazy plays by Hamilton after Gio passed to him behind the net. Hamilton allowed the puck to carom off his skate to the onrushing forward who sent it back to the point. Hamilton then lazily skated to the crease and waved his stick lazily at the point shot that eventually hit the post. It’s Hamilton’s man (once again in the crease) who pots the rebound.
The third goal was the result of another odd-man rush against, something that has been occurring all too frequently lately as either Dmen jump into the play and don’t get back, or the centre doesn’t cover for the jumping-up defender. (In the first period, only another amazing Smith save on a breakaway prevented a goal on such a play—and it was Jagr back as the last man on that one).
It was over at 3-1.
Yes, the Flames had many chances to go ahead before the 3-1 goal, and yes Elliott made some saves, but a 1-1 game does not get blown open like that if the team is playing well defensively. They weren’t—again—and haven’t been for a while.
Perhaps most concerning (as many others have already mentioned) was the coaching staff’s description of these goals being results of bad puck-luck. Both Cameron and Gulutzan alluded to this on the postgame show.
If this is what they honestly think, then this team is in deep trouble. Our defensive game is non-existent. Four of the five goals were slam-dunks from the crease. None of the defensemen plays physically in front of their own net, and the team in general gets caught watching the puck and losing their man in the Dzone.
Scoring chances are fine, goals will come. However, if they don’t fix the Dzone problems immediately, this week could end with 5 straight losses.
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12-05-2017, 12:24 AM
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#238
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Rhett Warriner on Darryl Sutter - Points what is wrong with our coaching
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“I couldn’t care less about his GM-ing,” says Warrener. “It was his ability to walk through the dressing room and know exactly what the mood of the team was — that was his greatest asset. He could walk in the room and, after two seconds, he would know whether it was, ‘OK, time to kick them in the pants,’ or time to have (Rich Preston) come in and tell a joke or time to give them the day off. He had that uncanny ability to know exactly what we needed.”
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http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...198/story.html
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12-05-2017, 12:26 AM
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#239
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What I found really interesting is after the game ended, and it sounded like the fans were booing. Anyone there confirm that it was actually booing?
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12-05-2017, 12:32 AM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
What I found really interesting is after the game ended, and it sounded like the fans were booing. Anyone there confirm that it was actually booing?
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Yup. There was booing after the game a few times during the game. IIRC, right after a brutal power play, the boo's rang out.
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