The trials and tribulations of Glen Gulutzan

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by Passe La Puck

Is it? I think the recipe is good plugs not getting no-gst on some top players. Our plugs are no good, Gaudreau can’t do it all even on a good contract.

Recipes generally have more than one ingredient....Having team friendly deals is part of it.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Dave Tippett? Mother of God, no...

people think it's boring now? Just wait for Dave Tippett...

Agreed this would be terrible. I'd rather keep Gulutzan.

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

good to have great players on great contracts, but nullified / neutralized when you have bad players on bad contracts like Stajan or Brouwer. Not like there's this huge amount of capspace to go get good secondary scoring or support players...

Absolutely and I agree that we may have traded too many draft assets to add key pieces as well. Pretty sure the Stajan contract was Feaster though

[AC]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Absolutely and I agree that we may have traded too many draft assets to add key pieces as well. Pretty sure the Stajan contract was Feaster though

I believe Stajan's current contract was Brian Burke when he was the interim GM.

[Passe La Puck]

And st the end of the day it’s results that matter and we’re not seeing those so I don’t see a great or even good GM. He is probably not terrible though.

[Barca]

say they fire Gulu and their play doesn't change, who goes next?

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by Barca

say they fire Gulu and their play doesn't change, who goes next?

Treliving. He built this roster.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Barca

say they fire Gulu and their play doesn't change, who goes next?

Everyone not named Gaudreau, Monahan, Ferland, Giordano, Tkachuk, Backlund, Jankowski. Maybe Brodie and Hamilton. I have to believe they’d look better with a new coach that plays to their strengths.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by colbym72

Absolutely and I agree that we may have traded too many draft assets to add key pieces as well. Pretty sure the Stajan contract was Feaster though

Yeah my post wasn’t meant in the spirit of blaming any particular GM moreso just saying the value of good contracts erodes with every bad one.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Is it terrible that I want Toronto to put ten up on us Wednesday so that we can expedite the firing of GG and get this back on track if possible?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

Is it terrible that I want Toronto to put ten up on us Wednesday Saturday that we can expedite the firing of GG and get this back on track if possible?

Yes.

[Ashasx]

Why do we have to play the Leafs AGAIN at a time when we are playing so poorly.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Barca

Gulu

Glulu?

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Why do we have to play the Leafs AGAIN at a time when we are playing so poorly.

Too bad we can't be playing a terrible team like the Oilers.

[Stay Golden]

If it takes losing 10 in a row to get Treliving to wake the hell up and Fire Boy Silent so be it. I pretty much hit my threshold of patience regarding this loser. When Frolik got the high stick and everyone on the bench saw his stick was flat on the ice and it was the Philly players stick clipped his team mate. Everyone on the bench was yelling but not the mute Gulutzan. I went on a verbal tirade on him. When Hamonic got the match and still this jerk said nothing I thought I was going to have a stroke. At least my tirade didn't include swearing.
This isn't fun going to a Flames games when we are forced to stomach this garbage and it results in getting mad.
Treliving needs to show up do his job and Fire this chump!!! Funny how quickly he pulled the trigger on Harltley. His boy Gully however gets continuous chances.

[Gaskal]

Just someone speculating. Seems to be drawing his conclusions from the Flames related sectors of internet, and boy are we ticked at GG right now.

Larry Fisher - 6m

Note that the keyword there was *could* be Gulutzan's last game. Source was speculating as much as anything, not like he got word from Brad Treliving mid-game that the firing was imminent. That said, it does sound like a change could be coming sooner than later for #Flames. #THW

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

This had to have been made in Bryce 3D.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Just some info on Tippett that I personally find interesting.

Yes, Coyote hockey has to be the most boring type of hockey around. They became the new Minnesota Wild, and the NJ Devils before that. However, keep this in mind:

Coyotes didn't have much offensive talent. A very structured team-oriented approach to defence was basically the only way for that lousy team to ever have a chance every game.

One thing that I remember reading (and that I can't find right now, unfortunately) during the search after Hartley was fired was an article on Tippett and how his fame for being a boring, overly defensive oriented coach is undeserved. Apparently in his previous stops, he had his teams playing a more up-tempo style. I wish I could find the article, as it is just coming from memory a couple of seasons back, but thought I would share that.

Now, here is another article that I found while looking for the above article, and I find it rather interesting, especially considering that this team is composed of 6 (more or less) puck-moving defencemen.

http://archive.azcentral.com/sports/...rfect-fit.html

Interesting tidbit on managing player TOI.

Every 10 games, Coyotes coach Dave Tippett posts a report card on the wall. Players circle like hawks, eager to learn their score, where they stand.
These are not ordinary statistics. These are player-efficiency ratings, the evolution of a system born in Tippett's brain more than 15 years ago, a quantifiable look at how every member of the Coyotes spends his ice time.
"What we've done is put a value on everything that happens in a game, from goal scoring to assists to fights to shots and shots blocked," Tippett said. "And then we break that down per minute played."

And that's why players are so interested. You can't expect more ice time if you don't have the numbers to back it up.

"I'll give you an example," he said. "We had a player that was supposed to be a great, shut-down defenseman. He was supposedly the be-all, end-all of defensemen. But when you did a 10-game analysis of him, you found out he was defending all the time because he can't move the puck.
"Then we had another guy, who supposedly couldn't defend a lick. Well, he was defending only 20 percent of the time because he's making good plays out of our end. He may not be the strongest defender, but he's only doing it 20 percent of the time. So the equation works out better the other way. I ended up trading the other defenseman."

It is an interesting take, and one that I think most of us share. I don't think that Kris Russell would be getting a lot of minutes under Tippett. I do think that most - if not all - of the existing defencemen would fit what Tippett expects.

Anyway, I was 100% against Tippett, but doing a bit of research leads me to believe that he might actually be a very good replacement, and if Gulutzan does indeed get the axe and Tippett takes over, I would at least keep a very open mind about him. If for nothing else, he quickly turned both the Stars and the Coyotes around, and the Kings had a 25 point improvement the season that he was brought on as an assistant coach.

Sutter is still my first choice, but Tippett doesn't sound so bad to me either. I don't think for a second that Ruff would even get interviewed - his system was much like Hartley's, and Treliving didn't agree with it.

This talk is all moot anyway seeing as the Flames still have a coach, but thought I would share what I know about Tippett. I don't think he would come in here and turn this team into Coyotes 2.0, but rather just make this team better at both ends of the ice.

[nixon45]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Two completely winnable games and we #### the bed so hard the velocity of the poop made it rip right through the mattress AND the box spring.

[Stay Golden]

If Treliving commits the 7th sin and brings his pal Tippet here I am definately done as a STH. I hate hate hate Dave Tippet and his ultra boring mind numbing chicken bleep brand of hockey. I hated him because of his attempts to water down the skill players with cowardly ultra trap no risk hockey. That jerk is the kind of coach that ruins the beauty of the great game of hockey period. Every game PHX lost it was a victory for hockey, every terrible season PHX had i was delighted that Tippet would hopfelly be out of the NHL. I will not support it out my wallet no way! The Calgary Flames will be known as the boring team of the league, nope that's not for me.

[ForeverFlameFan]

To be fair to Tippett, he didn’t really have that much talent to work with in AZ. I think he would be fine here.