11-29-2017, 09:54 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
If it was only that easy every team would call up a hard nosed grinder when they ran into scoring issues. Like I said he doesn't hurt but he's not the solution to the team's woes.
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It's more about the injection of a young guy with energy ready to play, and a couple of vets that may have more experience to carry them, but are looking slow and disinterested.
As a guy on the bench, when you see a player do hardworking things like block shots, forecheck, hit people, etc... it gives the whole team life. It makes everyone feel like they can be doing more, and they do. Brouwer was supposed to be doing this but he's been a bum. Lazar is decent at it but centeres tend to be the third guys in on forechecks and more likely in a battle in front than blocking a shot. Having speed and anger on the wings of a 8-10 min line is a necessity.
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11-29-2017, 09:55 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
In my mind, he is the pretty much the same player as Hamilton and Lazar
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He has an elements t to his game neither of the others do.
Truculence and desperation. Outside of this preseason, he's always struck me as the kind of player who recognizes that he needs to do whatever to get noticed to stay at the nhl level. Throw a big hit, fight guys bigger than him, block shots, whatever. That kind of energy would be a great thing to inject to the bottom line.
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11-29-2017, 09:56 AM
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#23
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Powerplay Quarterback
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honestly he should have been here all year instead of anyone on the 4th line not named brouwer
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11-29-2017, 09:57 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stone hands
honestly he should have been here all year instead of anyone on the 4th line not named brouwer
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In the flames defence, he had a pretty unnoticeable preseason. He was an easy cut given the other 1 way contracts on the roster.
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11-29-2017, 10:03 AM
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#25
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Medicine Hat
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Originally Posted by Kybb79
Now get rid of Freddie and Stagan for good.
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11-29-2017, 10:07 AM
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#26
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Scoring Winger
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We desperately need his speed and hustle on the 4th line, hopefully he gets into the lineup.
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11-29-2017, 10:07 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
In the flames defence, he had a pretty unnoticeable preseason. He was an easy cut given the other 1 way contracts on the roster.
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This. Let's not forget that against NHL competition, only Jankowski looked like he belonged.
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11-29-2017, 10:08 AM
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#28
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Originally Posted by bzoo02
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My bad Matt " J".
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11-29-2017, 10:13 AM
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#30
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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How is he on the left side?
Also if he's only here for one game (Versteeg could be back Saturday) I wonder if he gets into the game against Arizona at all? He did have that great fight with Domi didn't he?
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11-29-2017, 10:14 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kybb79
Now get rid of Freddie and Stagan for good.
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I hate Stagan, he has been invisible on this roster.
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11-29-2017, 10:14 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Looking forward to seeing Hathaway get some games in. He does make the Flames more difficult to play against, and he has in the past injected this team with some passion, much in the same way that Tkachuk does. Besides, considering the possession black hole that is the 4th line most nights, it can't be any worse, can it? He has also found his scoring touch in the AHL, and who knows? Maybe some of it translates into the NHL and he ends up potting a couple of goals in however many games he has.
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11-29-2017, 10:16 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I hate Stagan, he has been invisible on this roster.
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Never shows up on the score sheet.
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11-29-2017, 10:17 AM
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#34
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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He has that non-stop-Byron-motor that so many of us covet.
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11-29-2017, 10:19 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by the2bears
Never shows up on the score sheet.
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Similar to Stajan in that regard.
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11-29-2017, 10:20 AM
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#36
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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The Flames have two different problems with their bottom six right now.
The obvious one is a lack of scoring, which I agree Hathaway is unlikely to solve.
The other one is a lack of speed and the fact that they get run over on a nightly basis.
Given the way the bottom half of this roster is going, I'd take "energy" and "safe" as a step up even without production. Play the other team to a tie and let the upper half of the club look after it.
Last night was a mess for the fourth line.
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11-29-2017, 10:27 AM
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#37
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Locke
I disagree, its not his goal-scoring that we need, this team needs someone to grab it by the nose and wake them the the hell up and Hathaway is the answer to that issue.
Hathaway is up? Good news Flames. Bad news for everyone else.
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Hathaway has a way of dragging guys into the game with him. He's a pest to play against like Tkchuck, and if I'm not mistaken had the second best penalty drawn/taken on the team last year behind Matt. I think he's a breath of fresh air that can get these guys playing with emotion. Last night was listless for the most part. I hope Hathaway finds his way onto the 3rd line with Jankowski and Bennett. They would be difficult to handle.
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11-29-2017, 10:31 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
The Flames have two different problems with their bottom six right now.
The obvious one is a lack of scoring, which I agree Hathaway is unlikely to solve.
The other one is a lack of speed and the fact that they get run over on a nightly basis.
Given the way the bottom half of this roster is going, I'd take "energy" and "safe" as a step up even without production. Play the other team to a tie and let the upper half of the club look after it.
Last night was a mess for the fourth line.
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There are some old, slow guys on the bottom six. A couple of them didn't play last night, but in general they are not compensating for their lack of speed with production or at least possession.
The good news for next year is that all but one are on expiring contracts. But that doesn't solve the problem. It just means it doesn't have to be permanent.
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11-29-2017, 10:32 AM
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#40
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I believe in the Jays.
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Groan...
Person X: "Hey we're not getting any production from our bottom six and we just lost the PP1 specialist we had playing there... what's the play here Brad?"
Treliving: "Call up the guy with 1 NHL goal in 41 contests and poor shot share metrics"
I suppose it could have been worse... they could have called up Gadzic.
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