11-21-2017, 09:36 PM
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#21
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damn onions
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Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
Got to keep the group fresh, rotate in every once in a while. Better than only coming in when there's injury in my opinion, and keeps competition active
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Exactly. That's why Mike Smith is on pace for 80 games this season.
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11-21-2017, 09:38 PM
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#22
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Location: Calgary
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This doesn't make any sense at all.
Matt Bartkowski isn't good enough to play for the Oilers. Kulak has been miles better.
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11-21-2017, 09:42 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Fans can be drama queens sometimes. They possibly swap out the #6 d-man for a game and the outrage begins.
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11-21-2017, 09:43 PM
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#24
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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I can see changing things up after a loss or of course an injury, but coming off one of the better games of the season? With a days rest?
I personally don't get it. If it is true, hope it doesn't backfire.
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11-21-2017, 09:43 PM
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#25
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Exactly. That's why Mike Smith is on pace for 80 games this season.
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Smith was on fire early and Gulutzan correctly played him and won us a couple extra games because of it. He will play less going forward, assuming Eddie doesn't drop the ball completely.
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11-21-2017, 09:44 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern
Got to keep the group fresh, rotate in every once in a while. Better than only coming in when there's injury in my opinion, and keeps competition active
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This would make sense if Kulak was struggling or even on teetering on the edge... but he's not. He's been great.
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11-21-2017, 09:47 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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I just think he wanted to skate longer? I don't see this as he will be scratched tomorrow and we all know how reliable Calgary insiders are.
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11-21-2017, 09:48 PM
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#28
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Commie Referee
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Fans can be drama queens sometimes. They possibly swap out the #6 d-man for a game and the outrage begins.
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I don't see much outrage, more like confusion.
Who knows, maybe Kulak is playing and this discussion is all for naught.
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11-21-2017, 09:49 PM
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#29
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Feel bad for Kulak if it's not an injury. Seriously, what does he have to do to keep a spot at this point?
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11-21-2017, 09:50 PM
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#30
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffalufagus
Long season. They have depth at #6. Nothing to worry about.
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Sure there is. Kulak is playing well and the Flames are coming off one of there best games of the season. Terrible judgment to out in Bartowski unless there is an injury we don't know about.
That said, at this point its an educated guess that Kulak is sitting so we will have to wait and see.
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11-21-2017, 09:50 PM
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#31
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damn onions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Fans can be drama queens sometimes. They possibly swap out the #6 d-man for a game and the outrage begins.
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it's a (seemingly) odd decision. It's not "outrage" here it's a group of people scratching their heads at GG going off and being a silly goose with this call (notwithstanding there's a reason for it).
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11-21-2017, 09:52 PM
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#33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
it's a (seemingly) odd decision. It's not "outrage" here it's a group of people scratching their heads at GG going off and being a silly goose with this call (notwithstanding there's a reason for it).
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The important thing is to make several angry, steadfast posts about it before we even know it's true.
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11-21-2017, 10:05 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Showcasing for a trade. Come on. Fingers crossed
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11-21-2017, 10:11 PM
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#35
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damn onions
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
The important thing is to make several angry, steadfast posts about it before we even know it's true.
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What about my posts is angry? Maybe your interpretation is off.
Not everything that is negative is stated "angrily". The only ones over-reacting here are the folks that trip over themselves in an attempt to defend ridiculous decisions.
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11-21-2017, 10:22 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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While I'm also unhappy with substituting Bart in, this is what I believe to be the reasoning behind it.
The Blue Jackets are the size and skill deal, creating chances off the cycle and through an aggressive, physical forecheck.
But one thing of note is that they are hurting very, very badly for scoring now. Like, imagine if Monahan and Gaudreau were on 50pt paces, that's how bad it is. They've attempted to replace offense lost through Hartnell / Saad with Panarin, but they're very aware they won't be able to score goals the way our team does with speed, vision and skill. Furthermore, they are in a division where they're often facing stalwarts between the pipes:
- Schneider
- Murray
- Holtby
- Lundqvist
Furthermore, sprinkled throughout the rest of their conference: - Price (I know he's in a downturn but still)
- Vasilevskiy
- Rask
- Luongo
And on top of all that, their snipers have gone cold. So without all this scoring prowess and having to face a murderer's row of goaltending in their division, how does one create offence? You do it the meat-and-potatoes way. Stapling someone's butt in front of the goalie at all times. Beat the other team up on the boards with your size, force mistakes, and create mucky chances on net.
Having Smith be on his A-game isn't going to faze them one bit when they're facing potential Vezina challengers in net practically every game. The Jackets will have someone parked in front of him, I would bet on it. And be throwing hits all game.
That's where Bart comes in. The Flames need their defencemen to turn into the surliest grumps possible if that happens, and Bart loves physicality. He will throw himself into the fray even though he's more slight. And while he handles the puck like it's a cinderblock, at least he can skate well enough to not be wildly out of position... I hope.
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11-21-2017, 10:28 PM
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#37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Showcasing for a trade. Come on. Fingers crossed
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Showcasing who Lol?
Bartkowski has zero value. Literally one of the worst d men in the league. 31 teams could have had him for free and only Calgary picked him up mid season.
If he does draw in, it won't be showcasing.
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11-21-2017, 10:38 PM
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#38
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Lifetime Suspension
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Jack Adams decision making right here folks
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11-21-2017, 10:43 PM
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#39
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Don’t love the move if true; hope it is for one game MAX if true. Kulak has played great this year.
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11-21-2017, 10:43 PM
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#40
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
While I'm also unhappy with substituting Bart in, this is what I believe to be the reasoning behind it.
The Blue Jackets are the size and skill deal, creating chances off the cycle and through an aggressive, physical forecheck.
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That's where Bart comes in. The Flames need their defencemen to turn into the surliest grumps possible if that happens, and Bart loves physicality. He will throw himself into the fray even though he's more slight. And while he handles the puck like it's a cinderblock, at least he can skate well enough to not be wildly out of position... I hope.
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Good thinking. I had a similar thought as to why the potential substitution. Although I don't dislike Bartkowski as others might - a team needs all their players over the course of the season- I think, if this is in fact the reason, it's an example of the coaching staff overthinking or allowing their preconceptions to take over.
Kulak is playing great, skating well and moving the puck smartly. The idea he can't keep up his level against a physical opponent is wrongheaded IMO. You have to let Kulak experience that style if the plan is to have him an everyday player. Maybe his skills can negate the forecheck with speed to get out of the zone fast. Rather than inviting play in your end with a guy who will withstand the physicality. The Caps had heavy players and the combination of Smith's passes to Kulak (et al) and Kulak's quick thinking and passes got CGY out clean and on the attack.
I'm not a fan of platooning Kulak against certain teams especially when his game is going good. This notion of Kulak not being strong or not being able to pin guys effectively is not taking into consideration his increased confidence and growth in his game. Coaches are overthinking. Why change a winning lineup?
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