[News] Witkowski 10 games, Tkachuk Suspended 1 Game

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

1 game for Tkachuk is fine - but nothing for Mantha? That’s completely insane.

Poking a player outside of the field of play = 1 game suspension.

Beating the crap out of a player who is outside the field of play = not even reviewed.

...it’s such a painfully clear comparison, yet the NHL does nothing. The league is a joke.

The difference is pretty obvious. Tkachuk purposefully hit the player with his stick while the player was not on the ice and leaving to the locker room in an attempt to goad that player.

Mantha and Hamonic began fighting on the ice and while they were fighting were unaware that the bench door was open so both fell into the benches. BOTH players continued to throw punches.

[N-E-B]

You know what, if they wanted to fine him then fine. He pushed buttons and provoked it. But that is absolutely 100% not worthy of a suspension. What a joke. This league is alienating me more and more as time goes on.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

The difference is pretty obvious. Tkachuk purposefully hit the player with his stick while the player was not on the ice and leaving to the locker room in an attempt to goad that player.



Mantha and Hamonic began fighting on the ice and while they were fighting were unaware that the bench door was open so both fell into the benches. BOTH players continued to throw punches.

Sorry, no. When the linesman comes into play, it stops. The player on-top needs to stop it. He’s in control. Mantha should be suspended. If the same thing happened on the ice, he’d be suspended. The NHL just didn’t do anything because the media didn’t cover it properly.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Sorry, no. When the linesman comes into play, it stops. The player on-top needs to stop it. He’s in control. Mantha should be suspended. If the same thing happened on the ice, he’d be suspended. The NHL just didn’t do anything because the media didn’t cover it properly.

Brouwer didn't get suspended when the Detroit player was down and defenceless. He continued to punch him the back of the head 5 times. What's the difference? Oh right, one was a Flames player doing it to the opposition so that's okay.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Brouwer didn't get suspended when the Detroit player was down and defenceless. He continued to punch him the back of the head 5 times. What's the difference? Oh right, one was a Flames player doing it to the opposition so that's okay.

If you read the GT or PGT for that game you'd recall quite a few posters who didn't like that move either.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

If you read the GT or PGT for that game you'd recall quite a few posters who didn't like that move either.

No one really called for a suspension though.

[dino7c]

Fight on the ice vs. fight on one teams bench. Come on now...the usual suspects with the usual contrary opinions.

[FlamesNation23]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Brouwer didn't get suspended when the Detroit player was down and defenceless. He continued to punch him the back of the head 5 times. What's the difference? Oh right, one was a Flames player doing it to the opposition so that's okay.

One was on the ice while the other was on the bench which hamonic would have had no idea was open. Im not defending brouwer but there is a big difference.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

No one really called for a suspension though.

I don't think it was suspendable though. The big difference is that Mantha's incident occurred outside the playing surface. That changes the circumstances in my opinion. Not only is it outside the playing surface, but it's occurring in very close proximity to people who aren't playing in the game (TV personnel, training staff, coaches, etc.) and that now presents a hazard to those people as well.

I didn't like the extra shove Witkowski gave Kulak after he was down, but that's not suspendable as like the Brouwer incident, it happened on the playing surface. It was a garbage move but not suspendable.

I think NHL player safety really dropped the ball here.

[csnarpy]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

Brouwer didn't get suspended when the Detroit player was down and defenceless. He continued to punch him the back of the head 5 times. What's the difference? Oh right, one was a Flames player doing it to the opposition so that's okay.

Oh FFS’s, The difference is that when the linesman jumped in, Brouwer immediately stopped. Mantha just kept going.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

Guessing Freddie in, Lazar moves over to wing, while Bennett and Versteeg move up.

IMO Lazar has played his best hockey for the Flames at centre. I would keep him there, but what do I know.

[Magnum PEI]

I feel like some people havent watched the Abdelkader-Brouwer fight and are just going by what Detroit and Edmonton fans are spewing on HF. All of Brouwer's punches were thrown while Abdelkader was on two feet. Plus Abdelkader had just whacked Smith on the hand, which he had just taken a look at to see if it was injured before the fight.

[868904]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

The difference is pretty obvious. Tkachuk purposefully hit the player with his stick while the player was not on the ice and leaving to the locker room in an attempt to goad that player.

Mantha and Hamonic began fighting on the ice and while they were fighting were unaware that the bench door was open so both fell into the benches. BOTH players continued to throw punches.

Yea Hamonic is such an ass, how dare he throw punches while on his back and try and defend himself, just lie there and take the punches!

Seriously, you are just trolling now. Go find a leafs board.

[bubbsy]

Meh, move on.

Would have been nice to have had this sorted earlier in the day. Could have been the excuse to get mangiapane in their for a game.

[RedHawk12]

The Tkachuk suspension is fine. Like many other posters on here, what bugs me is why Mantha didn't get anything.

That guy was not even playing hockey. He was just beating up a vulnerable guy. There IS a difference between a hockey fight and what Mantha was doing.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

The difference is pretty obvious. Tkachuk purposefully hit the player with his stick while the player was not on the ice and leaving to the locker room in an attempt to goad that player.

Mantha and Hamonic began fighting on the ice and while they were fighting were unaware that the bench door was open so both fell into the benches. BOTH players continued to throw punches.

Do you have any video evidence of this? I saw Mantha's arm wailing down on Hamonic, but I never saw any arms coming back up.

Mantha kept punching him after a) the linesman tried to stop him, and b) after they were no longer on the ice surface. Those are huge differences to what happened with Brouwer.

If that were Matthews under Mantha, I doubt you would be making the same argument.

[Fan in Exile]

This is department of player SAFETY. NHL players are grown men. The department regularly ignores plays that cause serious injuries, dirty plays, much dirtier than Tkachuk tapping Wittkowski on the shinpad as he's escorted off the ice. Crosby, Chara and Marchand have gotten away with murder. And Tkachuk gets a game for...goading? Making Wittkowski angry and the officials therefore being unable to control the game? The Flames would be fined as a club, the coach would be fined, Mantha and Howard would be suspended if they had pulled this crap in retribution in a blow-out game. It's an absolute joke.

[CedarMeter]

Not surprised at all. Other guy got 10 games. I knew they would give Matthew a least a game to appease the Wings brass.

[doctajones428]

Harmonic is a big boy, he's fine. Had they fell on the ice and Mantha got an extra shot or two in while down, everyone would of got over it pretty quickly and wouldn't demand punishment. It was the heat of the moment and got a couple shots in. You make it sound like he took 10 in the back of the head like Holtby did from Emery (no suspension there either)

[LTH]

honestly all seems fair to me. MT hit a guy and provoked him while he was being escorted from the ice. ... can't do that.

the goon got what he deserved.

Mantha should at least get a talking to...