[News] Kremlin Praises Ovechkin's Support for Putin

[Street Pharmacist]

In my opinion, you cannot make a political statement, then hide from the ramifications. Crosby has an argument (I'm not buying it, but...) about the White House visit as that's a tradition he forced to choose/not choose. Ovechkin is making this political stance on his own. He had no right to now say he didn't want to talk politics.

These questions absolutely should be asked and pressed endlessly if he refuses to answer:

Do you support Putin's antigay laws?
Do you support Russia's invasion of Crimea?
Do you think it's ok for Putin to jail his political rivals and lol critical journalists?

[zamler]

Looks like the cold war is still on. One thing I know for sure is Russia and the United States are guilty of pretty much all the same things, to what degree we could argue endlessly.

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

In my opinion, you cannot make a political statement, then hide from the ramifications. Crosby has an argument (I'm not buying it, but...) about the White House visit as that's a tradition he forced to choose/not choose. Ovechkin is making this political stance on his own. He had no right to now say he didn't want to talk politics.

These questions absolutely should be asked and pressed endlessly if he refuses to answer:

Do you support Putin's antigay laws?
Do you support Russia's invasion of Crimea?
Do you think it's ok for Putin to jail his political rivals and lol critical journalists?

Why should he be made to explain his political views to the public? Should we follow all sports stars and do this also or only the ones that have political views that don't suit yours?

[flamesforcup]

Funny how people think the US and West in general is better than Russia. Russia did not single handidly destroy the middle east and ruin countless lies Like the USA and its allies.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

Why should he be made to explain his political views to the public? Should we follow all sports stars and do this also or only the ones that have political views that don't suit yours?

Did you read what I wrote????

If you make a political statement, you cannot claim you don't want to talk politics

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

Funny how people think the US and West in general is better than Russia. Russia did not single handidly destroy the middle east and ruin countless lies Like the USA and its allies.

The west didn't destroy the middle east. They have been fighting with each other from the start of time

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Did you read what I wrote????

If you make a political statement, you cannot claim you don't want to talk politics

If he says he doesn't want to talk about it that's exactly what he can do.
It is his right to do so?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

If he says he doesn't want to talk about it that's exactly what he can do.
It is his right to do so?

Seriously?

Yes. He legally can do that. What does that have to do with what I said?

If an athlete or anyone else makes a political statement, the press can and should demand answers.

I'll flip your circular question on you: the press can ask him daily and tell him it's ridiculous he's not answering. It's their right, no?

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Seriously?

Yes. He legally can do that. What does that have to do with what I said?

If an athlete or anyone else makes a political statement, the press can and should demand answers.

I'll flip your circular question on you: the press can ask him daily and tell him it's ridiculous he's not answering. It's their right, no?

Yes

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

Yes

So why ask that question? If course it is his right. I was saying the press shouldn't let it go until he answers the tough questions

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

So why ask that question? If course it is his right. I was saying the press shouldn't let it go until he answers the tough questions

So the press should harass a hockey player every day because of his political views ?

Bit pathetic don't you think ?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

So the press should harass a hockey player every day because of his political views ?

Bit pathetic don't you think ?

If he's going to make a statement to stand up for someone like Putin, he should answer the hard part questions.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

He runs his mouth that way. Despite the best opposition research that the Clinton campaign could do, they never came up with anything substantial in the way of actions to pin on him.

It's funny how whenever Trump says something crass about women or minorities, it must be the absolute truth about his position and his history, but if he says anything about any other subject at all, he's obviously lying. If you're going to discount 99% of what the man says, why on earth aren't you discounting it all? You can't have it both ways.

(I say this as someone who has very little use for Mr. Trump. About the best thing I can say for him is that I don't know of any specific reason why he should be in prison right now.)

He's a piece of garbage and anyone who supports him is on the same level as the guys who support Putin.

He's a sexist and a racist and a POS scum bag President. And a sexual predator. Those are facts.

If people want to talk Putin then defend Trump I find that highly ironic.

And who is discounting what he says? That sure wasn't me. I believe him. He's a scum bag and always has been.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

Funny how people think the US and West in general is better than Russia. Russia did not single handidly destroy the middle east and ruin countless lies Like the USA and its allies.

calm down Noam.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

Nope fake news.
Yes he's has said things, but a sexual predator. Load of bs.
As for the racist part illegal immigrants aren't a race

Do some research. He's been accused of sexual harassment multiple times and talks about women as if they're objects and gropes women for kicks.

He's a sexual predator. Fact.

And not a racist? Lol in the last 24 hours he's called someone Pocahontas who is native.

Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
Pocahontas just stated that the Democrats, lead by the legendary Crooked Hillary Clinton, rigged the Primaries! Lets go FBI & Justice Dept.

[chockfullofgoodness]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

He's a piece of garbage and anyone who supports him is on the same level as the guys who support Putin.

He's a sexist and a racist and a POS scum bag President. And a sexual predator. Those are facts.

If people want to talk Putin then defend Trump I find that highly ironic.

And who is discounting what he says? That sure wasn't me. I believe him. He's a scum bag and always has been.

How is it a fact? Also, where were all you lefties when Clinton was IMPEACHED for lying under oath while trying to wiggle his way out of one of his sexual harassment accusations?

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Bawbag

The west didn't destroy the middle east. They have been fighting with each other from the start of time

That's not true. In fact, the US has gone into various countries in the Middle East, and removed democratically elected and responsible governments, and replaced them with Islamic Militants. Iran, for instance, is a great example here.

I find the outrage against Ovie rather ignorant, to be honest. Anyone bat an eye when any sports figure show support to any US president? Well, either you should never care, or you should look more closely at what the US does around the world. If you still believe they fight for democracy and human rights, well... better look a bit more closely. In fact, going by international law, you will find that every US president going back to Nixon (and probably further back) is guilty of crimes against humanity - even Obama. People really don't know how many millions of people that the USA is directly or indirectly responsible for their deaths? I am betting that Kissinger - an advisor that every president utilizes - has been a part of the murder of so many people. So many people you ask? How many? Estimates throw him into the company of Stalin and Hitler.

Wouldn't it be so evil and horrific if Russia dropped a nuclear bomb on a major populated city somewhere in the world? Well, the USA remains to this day as the only nation on Earth that actually did so, and they did it twice.

If you are going to criticize Ovie for showing public support for Putin, then you should also criticize any professional athlete that has publicly supported any US president as well. I fail to see how someone makes the distinction between good and evil here. Both sides are responsible for a lot of heinous acts in this world. It is hypocritical not to do so, in my opinion. I think that athletes should not support any political figure, but instead use their popularity to draw attention for noteworthy causes.

[Bawbag]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Do some research. He's been accused of sexual harassment multiple times and talks about women as if they're objects and gropes women for kicks.

He's a sexual predator. Fact.

And not a racist? Lol in the last 24 hours he's called someone Pocahontas who is native.

Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
Pocahontas just stated that the Democrats, lead by the legendary Crooked Hillary Clinton, rigged the Primaries! Lets go FBI & Justice Dept.

Accusations mean sweet f all of you aren't convicted in court fact.
As for saying crass things about a woman at some point, well come on hardly sexual predator material is it?

Most guys are sexual predators according to your logic

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

If you are going to criticize Ovie for showing public support for Putin, then you should also criticize any professional athlete that has publicly supported any US president as well. I fail to see how someone makes the distinction between good and evil here. Both sides are responsible for a lot of heinous acts in this world. It is hypocritical not to do so, in my opinion. I think that athletes should not support any political figure, but instead use their popularity to draw attention for noteworthy causes.

You're completely missing the point. People are criticizing Ovechkin for supporting Vladimir Putin, not for being patriotic. You can be a patriotic Russian without being a vocal supporter of a guy who subverted whatever shaky democracy and liberalism post-Soviet Russia mustered to rule today as an iron-fisted autocrat.

If Putin were the leader of the United States, Anderson Cooper, Ariana Huffington, and George Soros would be dead, Stephen Colbert, Keith Olberman, and Mark Zuckerberg would be in jail, and the rest of the media and business opposition to the president would be cowed into silence out of fear for their lives. Black and gay activists would be fired from their jobs and threatened with prison, not subjected to obnoxious tweets.

Putin is a murderous, anti-democratic tyrant who uses violence and the threat of violence to suppress any opposition to his rule. It's absurd to equate the regime he heads to the U.S. government today.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Ovie is probably moving back to Russia when his career is over, Vlad likely isn't going anywhere for a while, so what other move does he have other than public support? I'm guessing he doesn't want to be sentenced to Siberia or Vladivostok.