The trials and tribulations of Glen Gulutzan

[dabrit]

I agree this team has no identity. It seems as though Glen is trying to coach the team to play like Anaheim when they simply are not constructed to play like Anaheim. We should be trying to play more like chicago quick skating team with mobile defenseman who scores off the rush. Im sorry Sean Monahan, Johnny Gaudreau, Sam Bennett etc arent gonna win many battles in thr corner which is vital to a cycle style of game which is what Glen keeps trying to hammer into players who physically just will never be able to play that style.

We need to be playing with far more pace and that shouls be obvious. How did we go from being talked about as one of the fastest skating teams from a couple of years ago to now this slow, uninspired dump and chase brand of hockey.

No creativity, no heart no sustained pressure.

Too many holes. No adjustments made in game. Glen I dont think has ever shown any emotion on the bench taken a time out..even when we pull the goalie why not take a time out and draw up a decent play?

Ive seen enough there is one guy out there who has won cups got us to a cup final within two years and won us a division.

If the time truly is now ans we are truly in win now mode then we need an elite experienced coach.

To be quite frank how could it harm the team?? Even wuth the so called additiona made on the blueline we are not playing that we'll defensively....something Sutter is a master of.

[robbie111]

Problem is the Flames play to the personality of the coach. Gulutzan is passive and that is how the team plays. Can't see them winning a playoff round with him as the coach. No intensity and would probably fair better as an assistant coach like he was in Vancouver.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Delthefunky

I just find the brand itself boring. No emotion from the coach, no inspiration, and the players are focusing too much on sticking to some failing system instead of just playing hockey. Systems are important of course, but hockey is 90% mental. As bad as Hartley was at utilizing a system, Gulutzan is as bad in instilling any emotion. Hartley would be red in the face yelling at the refs after their pathetic officiating over the past year and half. GG just looks so passive and weak. Tough choices right now for Treliving I think. If he sticks with GG and he loses the room we might be out by December. Or we turn it around like we did last year and go on a run. The way we're playing right now though I don't see that happening. If it weren't for Smith in net, we're worse than last year. I don't mind losing, as long as the game itself is entertaining.

Seemed telling that the team turned it on tonight after they were behind. This wasn't a team that seemed to want it tonight The 4th line players being rewarded in key situations over the rest of the team probably has them feeling a little disconnected.

[bubbsy]

I dunno.... We must have the best d to d passing ‰ on the league.

Good teams transition quickly to generate rush offensive chances. Instead, the Flames are great at just slowing the game down, getting some d to d passes in, allowing opposition to get into position, before thinking about breaking out.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Is Gerard Gallant available?

No, he's Vegas' coach.

[Flamenspiel]

I was at the game today. What really stood out was how much Stajan, Glass, and Brower were on the ice. You cannot win a game if your 4th line is your main line. Janko, Bennet, and Versteeg probably had about 8 minutes of ice time. GG is too passive and right now playing as if he is under imminent threat of getting fired.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I frankly would not be opposed to the return of Darryl Sutter to coach this team.

Built in a very similar way to the Kings were when they won cups.

The guy knows what he is doing.

[robbie111]

Originally Posted by indes

I am getting fully on board the fire Gulutzan band wagon. I really have no idea what he's trying to accomplish out there.

Other than what has been mentioned:

-Plays the first line with the third pair a ton
-Double shifts Gaudreau with Stajan and Brouwer instead of shortening the bench
-Gives the 4th line lots of ice time (where's the high intensity short shifts that 4th lines are for)
-Saddles our 1st pairing with the 4th line often
-All 4 lines seem to play the exact same system regardless of personell
-The players do not seem to be engaged at all
-Extreme lack of neutral zone play, our team looks like we're playing football out there switching between defense and offense with no fluidity.

Again I have no idea what GG is trying to accomplish by rolling 4 lines, 3 D pairings and having everyone play the exact same way. Not only is this not working, it's painful as #### to watch.

This 100000000000%

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Inferno

No, he's Vegas' coach.

I know, I was kidding... But wouldn’t it be nice?

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Darryl Sutter held the Kings back for two years after they missed the playoffs in 2015. He's an absolutely terrible coach who runs a system completely incompatible with the Flames' style. He almost ran Anze Kopitar and Dustin Brown into the ground, and now that he's gone, they're the class of the Pacific Division.



You have absolutely no idea if this is true.

He was so terrible he won two cups....


And it's still early the Kings will not continue on this pace.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I know, I was kidding... But wouldn’t it be nice?

Yeah, I was disappointed last season when Treliving stuck with Goofus and let Vegas hire Gallant.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by dabrit

I agree this team has no identity. It seems as though Glen is trying to coach the team to play like Anaheim when they simply are not constructed to play like Anaheim. We should be trying to play more like chicago quick skating team with mobile defenseman who scores off the rush. Im sorry Sean Monahan, Johnny Gaudreau, Sam Bennett etc arent gonna win many battles in thr corner which is vital to a cycle style of game which is what Glen keeps trying to hammer into players who physically just will never be able to play that style.

We need to be playing with far more pace and that shouls be obvious. How did we go from being talked about as one of the fastest skating teams from a couple of years ago to now this slow, uninspired dump and chase brand of hockey.

No creativity, no heart no sustained pressure.

Too many holes. No adjustments made in game. Glen I dont think has ever shown any emotion on the bench taken a time out..even when we pull the goalie why not take a time out and draw up a decent play?

Ive seen enough there is one guy out there who has won cups got us to a cup final within two years and won us a division.

If the time truly is now ans we are truly in win now mode then we need an elite experienced coach.

To be quite frank how could it harm the team?? Even wuth the so called additiona made on the blueline we are not playing that we'll defensively....something Sutter is a master of.

The part where I think your argument breaks down is where you talk about the Flames needing to be like Chicago... but then you argue for hiring L.A.'s old coach.

Part of what made the annual Chicago/L.A. playoff series of the early 2010s so interesting to me is that they were coached almost oppositely. Quenneville had the Hawks playing a speedy, up-tempo game revolving around Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Saad, and Toews playing off each other well in the offensive zone, placing an emphasis on skill and quickness in the top-six, while still allowing for guys like Keith and Campbell to participate in the offense. However, you watched the Kings play, and their style was almost the polar opposite of the Hawks' -- they thrived on slowing down the play, muscling guys off the puck, taking guys out of their comfort zones, muscling their way to the centre of the ice, not relying as much on offense from the defense.

You want the Flames to play like the Hawks while being coached like the Kings? That just doesn't make much sense to me.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Zoller

At least Darryl Sutter would command the respect of the room. I don't know if we can say the same about Gulutzan

Can you say he doesn't?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

He was so terrible he won two cups....

Way to ignore my other post in this thread and the actual argument that I made to support my claim. Sutter is terrible at adjusting his systems, even worse than Gulutzan.

[bubbsy]

Seriously, Gulutzan and treliving must be contemplating what to do next game.

Clearly, the decision about Bartkowski/Kulak or glass/Lazar will be the game changing move this team needs to play to their expectations.

Everything else is fine.

[djsFlames]

Last year was fair to be hands off.

Not really much of an excuse this year if this continues. Team is playing way under it's potential, simply put.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Jesus Christ. Talk about a ####ing knee-jerk reaction.

Very ironic coming from the creator of the GG is a great coach thread.

Was at the game tonight, cannot fathom how the 4th line received as much ice time as they did. Other than literally 1 shift they were able to cycle for 20 seconds before giving the puck away they were invisible pylons. Pretty sound judgment by the coaching staff.

I can't remember a Flames team that cared this little or showed such lack of emotion since Brent was coach. Come to think of it, pretty much the same awful, boring brand of hockey.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

The guy knows what he is doing.

Sutter has a short shelf life, but he can elevate teams in a small window. I wouldn't argue with that. Bring the prize home to Alberta sir.

[N-E-B]

Kris Versteeg and Troy Brouwer are on our top power play unit. Maybe that's Dave Cameron's fault, but ultimately he's GG's guy. I don't think firing the whole coaching staff is a good idea, but I do think they need to seriously re-evaluate their special teams.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by indes

I am getting fully on board the fire Gulutzan band wagon. I really have no idea what he's trying to accomplish out there.

Other than what has been mentioned:

-Plays the first line with the third pair a ton
-Double shifts Gaudreau with Stajan and Brouwer instead of shortening the bench
-Gives the 4th line lots of ice time (where's the high intensity short shifts that 4th lines are for)
-Saddles our 1st pairing with the 4th line often
-All 4 lines seem to play the exact same system regardless of personell
-The players do not seem to be engaged at all
-Extreme lack of neutral zone play, our team looks like we're playing football out there switching between defense and offense with no fluidity.

Again I have no idea what GG is trying to accomplish by rolling 4 lines, 3 D pairings and having everyone play the exact same way. Not only is this not working, it's painful as #### to watch.

Good post

Seems like he wants A team made of 12 backlunds and has no idea what to do with varying skill sets