[News] With the 21st overall pick Flames select C Mark Jankowski

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I viewed the games quite differently, I thought Bennett was sub par in every game besides Arizona and he's translated his sub par preseason to a sub par regular season.Call me crazy but I don't see it with Bennett, hope he proves me wrong. Jankowski was a first round pick 2 years before Bennett and deserves all the chances Bennett has gotten. Bennett still looks exactly the same as he was last year. There's been zero progression.

Bennett has been a brutal no.4 pick, people like to compare him to Backlunds development but Backlund also wasn't the highest pick in franchise history. Look at some of the players that went after Bennett, or in similar spots in other drafts. People need to start calling a spad a spade. He's been extremely underwhelming. I'm sure I'll be attacked for this. Thank god Flames got Tkachuk

You are wrong, and quite possibly crazy.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Bennett has been a brutal no.4 pick, people like to compare him to Backlunds development but Backlund also wasn't the highest pick in franchise history. Look at some of the players that went after Bennett, or in similar spots in other drafts. People need to start calling a spad a spade. He's been extremely underwhelming. I'm sure I'll be attacked for this. Thank god Flames got Tkachuk

No we don't.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You are wrong, and quite possibly crazy.

Crazy because 10-15 players have jumped him in his draft class? Arvidsson at this point would've been a better pick. If this team didn't draft Tkachuk Bennett's awful performances wouldn't be able to go unnoticed. This team would be a hell of a lot better with Ehlers, Nylander, or Pastrnak. These are facts not opinions. Nick Ritchie had a better season last year playing 4 less games. Tell me I'm crazy, he's boarderining on bust but no one wants to say it.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Crazy because 10-15 players have jumped him in his draft class, Arvidsson at this point would've been a better pick. If this team didn't draft Tkachuk Bennett's awful performances wouldn't be able to go unnoticed. This team would be a hell of a lot better with Ehlers, Nylander, or Pastrnak. These are facts not opinions

Actually, those are still opinions.

[dino7c]

well hindsight is nice...any team would have picked Bennett at #4. Many would have picked him before that.

Oilers should have drafted Gaudreau 1st overall not RNH

but how realistic is that

[Duffalufagus]

Bennett is a bust so far. No way around it. We can't get no production from the 3rd line centre. Brower drags him down...blah, blah, blah. Fact is he is not producing in accordance with what the expectation was. It is shocking, really. If you had told me that Bennett would suck after he came in cold in the '15 playoff run and lit it up, I would have asked for your dealer's digits.

[GranteedEV]

Bennett is the new Jankowski ITO thread derails.

It is going to be funny when Bennett is 23 and is the new Jankowski ITO people suddenly jumping on board the wagon after vitriolic development years.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by dino7c

well hindsight is nice...any team would have picked Bennett at #4. Many would have picked him before that.

Oilers should have drafted Gaudreau 1st overall not RNH

but how realistic is that

In hindsight obviously, still doesn't change the fact that Bennett has been a huge dissapoitment. He's invisible consistently besides the reminder of his poor hockey IQ when he takes awful penalties. He can't shoot in traffic and falls all over the ice because he's not strong on his skates. He's gotten a pass by the entire fan base so far. Sorry if I'm not at all impressed with a player that looks like he's shaping up to be a 3rd liner who was taken with the teams highest ever pick. I'm not even expecting elitness from him because that's never going to happen. If we are gonna talk #### on the Oilers for their busts we should at least look in the mirror and realize that our highest pick ever has only had a few moments of good in the NHL.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Crazy because 10-15 players have jumped him in his draft class? Arvidsson at this point would've been a better pick. If this team didn't draft Tkachuk Bennett's awful performances wouldn't be able to go unnoticed. This team would be a hell of a lot better with Ehlers, Nylander, or Pastrnak. These are facts not opinions. Nick Ritchie had a better season last year playing 4 less games. Tell me I'm crazy, he's boarderining on bust but no one wants to say it.

Diagnosis confirmed. That'll be $400.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Diagnosis confirmed. That'll be $400.

Would you like me to list these players?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Would you like me to list these players?

Why would I want that?

[GranteedEV]

Victor Arvidsson had 0-0-0 in 6GP at age 21 in the NHL.

Clearly we should have picked this winger over Sam Bennett, who is a 21 year old center right now with the same Stat Line, except with 76 more games to go to score apoint as a 21 year old.

And Beninho was definitely absolutely not even possibly one of those guys advocating that we take the 2nd round compensatory pick over 21 year old Jankowski.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

And Beninho was definitely absolutely not even possibly one of those guys advocating that we take the 2nd round compensatory pick over 21 year old Jankowski.

Don't leave me hanging like that.

Link it.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by dino7c

well hindsight is nice...any team would have picked Bennett at #4. Many would have picked him before that.

Oilers should have drafted Gaudreau 1st overall not RNH

but how realistic is that

Hindsight is pointless, he is who the Flames picked. More important is foresight - what is his realistic trajectory, what role/position will he play with in the future makeup of the team, what impact does that have on decisions regarding Backlund and Jankowski, etc.

Unfortunately he is not trending where we all hoped he would so far. Maybe he doesn’t end up as 2C, then resigning Backlund is (even more of a) priority. Maybe he doesn’t fit at C, so start prepping Jankowski. Maybe he needs a change of scenery. I’m not saying any of those are true, just the longer he goes not living up to expectations the more questions need to be asked.

Too soon? Absolutely! We also don’t know what the team’s expectations are for him. But one hope by the end of the season we have a pretty good idea of what we have here.

[Beninho]

Leon Draisaitl
David Pastrnak
Nikolaj Ehlers
Aaron Ekblad
William Nylander
Sam Reinhart
Robby Fabbri
Viktor Arvidsson
Dylan Larkin
Nick Ritchie

Bennett is below all these players imo. Until he proves otherwise he was a poor pick in hindsight. Stop the excuses and #freejanko

[dustygoon]

If Janko had a brother that skated like a deer and was a star on the team, he would be playing too to keep the family happy.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Bennett is a bust so far. No way around it. We can't get no production from the 3rd line centre. Brower drags him down...blah, blah, blah. Fact is he is not producing in accordance with what the expectation was. It is shocking, really. If you had told me that Bennett would suck after he came in cold in the '15 playoff run and lit it up, I would have asked for your dealer's digits.

I believe that Dal Colle and Virtanene the 2 players picked right after Bennett are on the verge of being busts but Bennett is not close yet. 36pts as a 19 year old winger, a sophomore slump as a centre and a scoreless 6 games this year does not make a bust

[JJFlash]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Bennett has taken longer than I thought, I'll admit that. But you can't compare Jankowski's one game at the NHL level, and one season at the AHL level to Bennett's body of work yet.

They're not comparable.

I would guess Bennett would be tearing up the AHL pretty good himself.

Interesting thought, we will never know if Bennett or for that matter Tkachuk would have lit up the AHL like Janko because they never had to go through it. If you layer on the pressure to succeed in the AHL to get to the NHL it is a different game.

Janko has scored 7 points in 4 games after being sent down to the AHL. It would not have been surprising if it took him a few games to get his feet under him. If you put his early scoring in context he has been in on 50% of the 14 total team's goals...which is pretty impressive. Of concern, the top line of Janko, Hathaway, and Mangi are carrying the team with very little secondary scoring.

Bennett has had a decent couple of years but it is not out of the realm of possibility that Janko could have met and surpassed Bennett's points totals given the same opportunity.

[Bourque's Twin]

I can't call Bennett a bust until he gets significant time at LW with good linemates.

He may not become a #1 franchise C, but that doesn't mean he's a bust.

[GioforPM]

I hear Bennett has a 6 game pointless streak and no top NHL player has ever done that, especially at a young age.

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