i'm having a tough time listening or watching any US media coverage of this. The pundits are .... wow .... on both sides.
At best i'm scanning articles on several websites looking for actual stories on the incident, but tough to do with the politicization of this tragedy.
Sad that this is fuel for polarization in social media.
One man did something malevolent. Hundreds of people of all political, religious, and social beliefs demonstrated remarkable bravery and compassion in response.
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I mean, respect for coming around and all, but this just reinforces the question of how the hell wasn't Sandy Hook the turning point? This is bad for sure, but Sandy Hook is the worst ever and probably will never be surpassed until someone kills more children than that day.
Yep, agreed 100%. If someone can walk into a school and kill a bunch of children and that still doesn't change anything? Then nothing will change, ever.
In turn, lobbying groups like the American Suppressor Association have drafted language arguing that gun owners need silencers to protect their hearing, rather than to conceal their crimes – language that would eventually be copied and pasted into the SHARE Act.
Shooting incidents with the most victims not including the First Nations massacres of the 18th and 19th centuries.
Just for you:
The unwelcome title of largest massacre might belong to Bear River, Utah, where at least 250 Native Americans were slaughtered in 1863; Native American historical accounts put the number at more than 450. In 1890, Native American men, women and children were massacred at Wounded Knee, South Dakota, with estimates of the death toll ranging from 150 to 300. https://www.poynter.org/news/lone-wo...-news-coverage
Some person on facebook just pointed out, rather succinctly, (paraphrasing)-
Country where purchasing of machine guns is a right, but the health care required to care for the innocent victims of brutal and tragic crimes is a privilege.
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Interesting to read that explosives were found both at the shooter's home and in his vehicle, and that he amassed his gun collection over a period of years.
It's also interesting to see how he's been described by his brother and his neighbors, and that the woman he spent time with has been alternately described as a girlfriend and as merely a companion.
The picture that seems to be forming is one of a guy who - for whatever success he may have had financially - isolated himself socially, and developed his intentions and his plan over a period of time and away from the eyes of the few people who might be described as close to him.
The social isolation component is one of those things that comes up repeatedly in incidents of this kind. It seems to be a factor in terrorist recruitment too. These sorts of events seem to be a way to finally get noticed, while at the same time uncorking the contempt the perpetrators have for both themselves and others, all in one go.
It will be interesting to see if they find anything at his home that offers some better insight into his thought processes.
Jeebus listened to a radio interview today in Iceland from a group of Icelandic people on an employee fun trip who were 1 floor above the shooter, cannot imagine how horrifying it would have been to see bullets raining down on that crowd from their vantage point.
tough to watch... didn't realize Kimmel was from Las Vegas, but it explains why this hit him so hard.
He's right though; the majority of Americans, republican and democrats, want some common sense gun control rules:
background checks, regardless of buying online or at a gun show...
people with mental illness shouldn't be allowed to purchase guns...
its their representatives that haven't been able to get this through (due to NRA pressure), even though the majority of their constituents support the above two measures...
i would add:
No silencers, No assault rifles.... i'd also reconsider allowing guns to be purchased by anyone on terrorist watch lists... really does not compute imo...
The latter two are unlikely to happen, and the Silencer relaxation legislation is currently on the docket and was set to be heard this week prior to the LV shooting (delayed previously due to the Scalise shooting in washington).
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So 33,000 people in the US are killed every year as a result of gun violence. I guess another 59 will not matter that much to Americans in the overall scheme of things.
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Kimmel's right on a lot of that stuff. When someone with a beard or brown skin shoots and kills Americans they take measures to try to stop it. When Americans do it to themselves......oh well. Rinse and repeat.
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