09-29-2017, 03:53 PM
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#3001
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Oh, yes.
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09-29-2017, 03:54 PM
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#3002
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan
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Great quote, let's give her the credit:
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"One of the reasons Calgary is in this situation right now is because so many other cities have so weakly capitulated when Bettman and their billionaire buddies have made the exact same threats," said National Post columnist Jen Gerson.
"Edmonton is the clear example of this. I mean, clearly, so much of Edmonton's flagging, sad, little ego is tied up in their hockey success that they needed to sign a scam of a deal to give a sweetheart arena over to (Oilers owner) Darryl Katz. And now all of a sudden the expectation is that Calgary is going to fall in line?"
"I'm afraid we're not that pathetic," she said. "We're just not that pathetic, as a city."
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09-29-2017, 03:59 PM
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#3003
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Bravo, Jen Gerson, bravo.
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09-29-2017, 04:01 PM
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#3004
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by RM14
Why would CSEC pay 100% for something two parties have publicly stated they want.
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Originally Posted by RogerWilco
The City of Calgary always states what they want everywhere in the City, its called Land Use Planning.
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lol
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09-29-2017, 04:04 PM
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#3005
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by jayswin
lol
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City is offering to help finance, and offering to contribute millions in assets... Do they do this all the time in normal Land Use Planning?
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09-29-2017, 04:12 PM
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#3006
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I don't believe you. When the city has repeatedly stated that they want an arena, that they are prepared to provide some form of funding, and that they are willing and eager to negotiate I would be shocked if anyone actually believes that the Flames will not eventually come back to the table. That is nonsense.
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You don't have to believe me. I'm not even asking you to believe me. The only thing you have to believe is that Ken King is a representative of the owners and does exactly what he is told, especially by Murray Edwards. If Murray Edwards has directed him to end the process, its done. The only way he'll circle back is if the other side falls on its sword. You can ask anyone who has negotiated with Edwards, when he says we're done, we're done. Speaking from experience, if Edwards looks you in the eye and says #### you, you're ####ed. He rarely wastes time on deals he thinks can't be made nor does he circle back. He's a guy that believes in moving forward at all times. This is the reason why I think King was serious when he said they are moving in a different direction. Could I be wrong? Certainly. But look at Edwards' behaviors in his other business dealings. That will tell you all you need to know.
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09-29-2017, 04:22 PM
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#3007
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Great quote, let's give her the credit:
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That quote is E=NG worthy!
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09-29-2017, 04:48 PM
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#3008
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Gaudfather
That quote is E=NG worthy!
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I'd say it would be the perfect first post for E=NG 5.
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09-29-2017, 04:51 PM
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#3009
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Great quote, let's give her the credit:
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I also really appreciated this at the end:
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Gerson offered a more blunt assessment of how well the message coming from Bettman — who is routinely booed by even the most ardent hockey fans — is likely to be received in the city she calls home.
"If the most reviled man in the NHL thinks that he's going to come to Calgary and threaten the electorate to vote in the way that he wants them to in order to get taxpayer money for billionaire's arenas — my god, I don't think I can express my feelings on television on that one."
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09-29-2017, 05:01 PM
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#3010
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by New Era
You don't have to believe me. I'm not even asking you to believe me. The only thing you have to believe is that Ken King is a representative of the owners and does exactly what he is told, especially by Murray Edwards. If Murray Edwards has directed him to end the process, its done. The only way he'll circle back is if the other side falls on its sword. You can ask anyone who has negotiated with Edwards, when he says we're done, we're done. Speaking from experience, if Edwards looks you in the eye and says #### you, you're ####ed. He rarely wastes time on deals he thinks can't be made nor does he circle back. He's a guy that believes in moving forward at all times. This is the reason why I think King was serious when he said they are moving in a different direction. Could I be wrong? Certainly. But look at Edwards' behaviors in his other business dealings. That will tell you all you need to know.
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Except when Edwards moves on he actually moves on. The fact that King and Bettmen are out giving interviews means that they haven't in fact moved on. Also you can make the same above statement about every billionaire.
They are taking a shot at influencing an election. It's a zero cost decision. Either they win and get rid of Nenshi or they lose and the city offer is stil on the table. The timing and behaviour here is completely about trying to unseat Nenshi.
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09-29-2017, 05:06 PM
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#3011
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by New Era
Speaking from experience, if Edwards looks you in the eye and says #### you, you're ####ed.
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We also have now learned why New Era isn't in Calgary/. Edwards expelled him from the city 
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09-29-2017, 05:08 PM
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#3012
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All I can get
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Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 09-29-2017 at 05:14 PM.
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09-29-2017, 06:01 PM
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#3013
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Franchise Player
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I guess I'll be the voice of dissent again.
Making wisecracks about edmonton and their crappy hockey team on a Flames forum is fair game IMO, hell it's fun. Going on the CBC in front of a national audience and trashing the city and it's residents goes too far, makes us look petty and rude. I'd bet money that if you polled people across the country they'd say this sort of thing reflects badly on Calgary's image.
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09-29-2017, 06:05 PM
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#3014
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Originally Posted by Jacks
I guess I'll be the voice of dissent again.
Making wisecracks about edmonton and their crappy hockey team on a Flames forum is fair game IMO, hell it's fun. Going on the CBC in front of a national audience and trashing the city and it's residents goes too far, makes us look petty and rude. I'd bet money that if you polled people across the country they'd say this sort of thing reflects badly on Calgary's image.
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I’d bet that if you polled people across the country they couldn’t care less about the whole thing and would wonder what you were doing polling them in the first place.
Hot take, but take it like it is: a funny comment that will be forgotten in a week.
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09-29-2017, 06:06 PM
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#3015
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Jacks
I guess I'll be the voice of dissent again.
Making wisecracks about edmonton and their crappy hockey team on a Flames forum is fair game IMO, hell it's fun. Going on the CBC in front of a national audience and trashing the city and it's residents goes too far, makes us look petty and rude. I'd bet money that if you polled people across the country they'd say this sort of thing reflects badly on Calgary's image.
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It was the local suppertime newscast.
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09-29-2017, 06:10 PM
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#3016
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Franchise Player
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09-29-2017, 06:10 PM
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#3017
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
a funny comment that will be forgotten in a week.
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The Northerners will never forget.
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09-29-2017, 06:14 PM
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#3018
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Originally Posted by New Era
You don't have to believe me. I'm not even asking you to believe me. The only thing you have to believe is that Ken King is a representative of the owners and does exactly what he is told, especially by Murray Edwards. If Murray Edwards has directed him to end the process, its done. The only way he'll circle back is if the other side falls on its sword. You can ask anyone who has negotiated with Edwards, when he says we're done, we're done. Speaking from experience, if Edwards looks you in the eye and says #### you, you're ####ed. He rarely wastes time on deals he thinks can't be made nor does he circle back. He's a guy that believes in moving forward at all times. This is the reason why I think King was serious when he said they are moving in a different direction. Could I be wrong? Certainly. But look at Edwards' behaviors in his other business dealings. That will tell you all you need to know.
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If the NHL is consistent in their approach as seen in other markets, they would require Edwards to first offer up the Flames to local buyers, before allowing a move.
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09-29-2017, 06:15 PM
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#3019
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Listening to Eric Francis on the radio makes me want to slice my ears off.
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09-29-2017, 06:20 PM
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#3020
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
I'm not saying a move is likely, I'm saying if the team ever moved it wouldn't be owned by the current group. Murray Edwards doesn't want to own the Seattle Salmon.
Although I do wonder if the BoG would like to send a message by approving the Flames move if the city stands up to their demand for free money. If they cave it kinda blows their house of cards over.
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Why wouldn't he want to own a Seattle team? Don't you know, these teams are just toys for these owners.
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