[News] Flames reduce roster to 27 players UPD: Cramarossa released from PTO

[Ozy_Flame]

My reaction when Tanner Glass gets signed and scores the winning goal of the season opener:

[savardandjokinen]

Glass>Gazdic but still don't want him

[fire_starter]

Originally Posted by Muta

If Glass makes the team, whatever. He provides some toughness and if he's playing like garbage I'm sure Gulutzan will bench him / send to the minors, or Trevelyan will Grossman his ass outta here. Lineups in October rarely look exactly the same as lineups in April.

Lol.

[Flash Walken]

You're a hiring manager.

You bring in two candidates:

Candidate 1 has a 10 year track record and solid references. His sales numbers are low, but they are consistent, and every one of his references tells you how good of a foot soldier he was and how well he blended into the existing sales team. His bosses all loved him but after a recent layoff, he's struggled to find a new position. He knows the industry and he knows what he's worth. His salary expectations are in line with what you're looking to pay.

Candidate 2 has significantly less experience, and his sales experience is from a different industry. His initial numbers look really good, significant improvements year over year, but there is some question whether he'll be able to adapt to the new industry and keep his KPIs as high or consistent. He has promise, but he's also trying to climb the ladder and his salary expectations are higher than you'd like for the position. You have wiggle room on salary, but know that an overpaid and under performing sales hire will reflect poorly on you.

Who Do you hire?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Tanner Glass is making this roster, folks.

You think they are going to send down Hamilton or Hathaway to keep him? I will assume Gazdic is gone.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

You're a hiring manager.

You bring in two candidates:

Candidate 1 has a 10 year track record and solid references. His sales numbers are low, but they are consistent, and every one of his references tells you how good of a foot soldier he was and how well he blended into the existing sales team. His bosses all loved him but after a recent layoff, he's struggled to find a new position. He knows the industry and he knows what he's worth. His salary expectations are in line with what you're looking to pay.

Candidate 2 has significantly less experience, and his sales experience is from a different industry. His initial numbers look really good, significant improvements year over year, but there is some question whether he'll be able to adapt to the new industry and keep his KPIs as high or consistent. He has promise, but he's also trying to climb the ladder and his salary expectations are higher than you'd like for the position. You have wiggle room on salary, but know that an overpaid and under performing sales hire will reflect poorly on you.

Who Do you hire?

I would probably not hire either of them, they both present a risk for different reasons...

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

You're a hiring manager.

You bring in two candidates:

Candidate 1 has a 10 year track record and solid references. His sales numbers are low, but they are consistent, and every one of his references tells you how good of a foot soldier he was and how well he blended into the existing sales team. His bosses all loved him but after a recent layoff, he's struggled to find a new position. He knows the industry and he knows what he's worth. His salary expectations are in line with what you're looking to pay.

Candidate 2 has significantly less experience, and his sales experience is from a different industry. His initial numbers look really good, significant improvements year over year, but there is some question whether he'll be able to adapt to the new industry and keep his KPIs as high or consistent. He has promise, but he's also trying to climb the ladder and his salary expectations are higher than you'd like for the position. You have wiggle room on salary, but know that an overpaid and under performing sales hire will reflect poorly on you.

Who Do you hire?

Keep searching. Or hire 2 and assess him after 90 days.
Don't accept poor performers.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

You think they are going to send down Hamilton or Hathaway to keep him? I will assume Gazdic is gone.

I think Gadzic and Hathaway.

[Gord Wappel]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

You're a hiring manager.

You bring in two candidates: blah blah 1 blah blah 2

Who Do you hire?

This sounds like the set up for the old
"the one with the best legs" joke

or more recently
"the one with Sutter as last name"

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

His sales numbers are low

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

but know that an overpaid and under performing sales hire will reflect poorly on you.

See, what will also reflect poorly on you is low sales... period.

So you're boned for sure in case 1 and only maybe boned in case 2. Sure, you can hope that your other salesmen maybe make up for candidate 1's likely low sales but they'll equally be able to make up for candidate 2 possible under-performance. Worse, if candidate two is hired by one of your competitors and becomes a top seller that also reflects poorly on you.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Muta

If Glass makes the team, whatever. He provides some toughness and if he's playing like garbage I'm sure Gulutzan will bench him / send to the minors, or Trevelyan will Grossman his ass outta here. Lineups in October rarely look exactly the same as lineups in April.

[Locke]

Look....Sean Bean has been killed a lot, theres no need to drag him into this.

[Ozy_Flame]

One does not simply sign Glass

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

You think they are going to send down Hamilton or Hathaway to keep him? I will assume Gazdic is gone.

Hathaway needs to stay. They can fire F. Hamilton into space for all I care, not an NHL calibre player.

[868904]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

You think they are going to send down Hamilton or Hathaway to keep him? I will assume Gazdic is gone.

Does Freddie get a job just because he is Dougie's brother?

I'd rather have Glass and Hathaway over Freddie. Freddie doesn't really bring much, other than keeping Dougie happy.


Both Glass and Hathaway will be useful in games against the Oilers and Ducks.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by 868904

Does Freddie get a job just because he is Dougie's brother?

I'd rather have Glass and Hathaway over Freddie. Freddie doesn't really bring much, other than keeping Dougie happy.

If Freddie H. is the difference between a 45 point season and a 60 point season for brother Dougie, does that mean Freddy is good for 10-15 points a year?

[btimbit]

I actually like what Freddie brings as a 13th forward.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by 868904

Does Freddie get a job just because he is Dougie's brother?

I'd rather have Glass and Hathaway over Freddie. Freddie doesn't really bring much, other than keeping Dougie happy.


Both Glass and Hathaway will be useful in games against the Oilers and Ducks.

Personally I think Freddie is on this roster 1000% because of Dougie. The morning show jokes about it from time to time that Freddie is on the roster to "take care" of his little brother off the ice (laundry, meals, etc)

[FBI]

Well we were all correct about how useless Grossmann was going to be.
Are we all going to be correct again about how useless Bartkowski is going to be?

GG usually finally agrees with us a month after we recognize something.. Cut the losses now Glen and get rid of Bart now instead of waiting a month to realize he sucks and gives the puck away constantly.

[jaikorven]

Regarding Glass, is it 100% fair to assess him on only his past work over the years or is it possible that people can change and that is why he 'earned' a spot? I am a believer in the benefit of the doubt, only because he seems to be one of the guys that are giving 100%. If he craps the bed 10 or 20 games in, on a consistent basis, then he goes down and someone else comes up, At this point in time, he does deserve the spot, in my opinion.