Will the real Islam please stand up?

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by feartheflames

I know I said I would leave , but i just actually want to clarify my beliefs before I did, I believe that Chritianity, Islam and Judaism were all once the same religion, I believe that perception has seperated them, they are all eerily simmilar ( it is not a coinsidence). I believe we waste way too much time hating each other and pointing fingers, when we should just live and let live. My obejective on particpating on this board wasn't to insult or anger anyone. I just wanted to have my voice heard> there are mnay great Muslims out there ( anyone remember Malcom X). You are entitled to your own opinion. I just wanted people to know that not all muslims are terrorists, we are not blood thirsty, the mass majority of us are good people who just need to catch a break. I also recognize that the few idiots claiming to fight in the name of Allah, aren't making it easy on us either, just my two cents.

Malcolm X? Really now...wasnt he murdered by 3 members of the Nation of Islam? Wasnt he an ex drug dealer con man who became the leader of Black Power, using violence as his means? Didnt Islam censure Malcolm?

[Looger]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Malcolm X? Really now...wasnt he murdered by 3 members of the Nation of Islam? Wasnt he an ex drug dealer con man who became the leader of Black Power, using violence as his means? Didnt Islam censure Malcolm?

sounds like the logic that anti-semites use to indict all jews for the murder of jesus.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Malcolm X? Really now...wasnt he murdered by 3 members of the Nation of Islam? Wasnt he an ex drug dealer con man who became the leader of Black Power, using violence as his means? Didnt Islam censure Malcolm?

The Nation of Islam was a radical sect of Islam that was not recognized by any prominent religious leaders as being a true sect of Islam... They murdered him after he became a true follower of Islam... Also, Malcolm X turned away from violence when he became a true follower of Islam, this is when the Nation of Islam censured him, but also they censured him because he was speaking out against many of his fellow leaders in the sect. Actually I think I got that wrong the censured him before he turned to true Islam, but after he started seeing they were all full of ****...

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Sowa

I guess what I learned from being raised catholic that pretty much saying that this person might be the anti-Christ and this points to the apocalypse as said in Revelations is generally adding to it and using it to cause fear.

In Catholic eschatology Revelations is very symbolic and they teach much of it was already fullfill by Rome in the first couple centuries. It has been traditionally held by both Protestants and Ana-baptists(Baptists) that the Whore which sits on seven hills in Revelations is the Roman Catholic church. For that reason alone I would think they would make such objections. Personally I try not to fill in the blanks with names realizing that the first time Jesus came few reconized Him because He didn't fit preconceived notions.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Personally I try not to fill in the blanks with names realizing that the first time Jesus came few reconized Him because He didn't fit preconceived notions.

Something I can agree with you on. Something to ponder is who are today's Pharasies?