[GDT] Preseason: Flames vs Canucks 7pm

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by heep223

Ok man so I was watching every shift this period and here it is for Janko:

18:50 - giveaway in the o zone on a PP, after a great play by Valimaki, that resulted in a rush the other way
15:05 – caught flat footed with puck on his stick, rush goes the other way
15:00 - Loses faceoff but his winger picks it up, moves up ice
? (next shift) - Loses Faceoff, stuck in his zone for the entire shift, changes
9:10 – loses faceoff
9:00 – makes a nice play in the d zone to break up a play and move the puck up ice himself. Teammate turns the puck over in o zone on a cycle and line is stuck in d zone again.
5:10 – loses faceoff but wingers bail him out. Puck goes the other way anyways.
5:00 - loses faceoff which immediately leads to a scoring chance against
5:00 – Loses faceoff but winger bails him out again
4:50 – takes long shot from outside off the rush which is deflected, then parks in front of the net, is outmuscled to loose puck
4:36 – doesn’t see Versteeg stuck in zone and goes offside
1:30 – misses loose puck on rim in o zone and comes back 3 on 2.
1:03 – dumps the puck out of the d zone which is deflected over the glass

I will continue to watch.

go away.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

If Bartkowski plays a game for the Flames this season, Gulutzan needs to fired for his poor judgement, Treliving needs to be fired for allowing GG to do such an idiot thing, and Burke needs to be replaced because he did not implement a system that would prevent the Flames from intentionally throwing hockey games.

PTO's and bad goaltending. The Treliving saga.

[dino7c]

a few of these guys will be on the Flames roster

a few of these guys will be on the Canucks roster

the lineup really wasn't all that one sided IMO

[djsFlames]

Based on the preseason so far, if I were Brad I'd keep Jankowski, has been better than Lazar by far. I'd give Dube a look for a couple games. Kulak-Stone is probably my third pairing. And I'd be making a phone call to Jagr's camp. I'd also be praying each night that this goaltending duo turns out.

[RyZ]

Had pretty good seats at the game, probably wont sit in seats like that for the rest of the year.

That being said, Jankowski was the only forward that was threatening in the offensive zone. Hes ready and should be in the line up every game.

Versteeg was awful. Just a poor effort all game long. GG should have sat him down. I thought Kulak and Bart were the worst of the auditioning Dmen, especially Kulak. He had a pretty poor showing.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

go away.

Fantastic hockey analysis and contribution

[Dion]

Games like this are making the coaches decision easy on who to send down to the AHL.

[dammage79]

Survive the next cuts:
Valimaki, Kylington, Andersson, Jankowski, Dube, Glass, Kulak, Gillies. Am I missing anyone? rest seemed like they should be on to the farm.

EDIT: Lazar survives the cut too.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by heep223

Ok man so I was watching every shift this period and here it is for Janko:

18:50 - giveaway in the o zone on a PP, after a great play by Valimaki, that resulted in a rush the other way
15:05 – caught flat footed with puck on his stick, rush goes the other way
15:00 - Loses faceoff but his winger picks it up, moves up ice
? (next shift) - Loses Faceoff, stuck in his zone for the entire shift, changes
9:10 – loses faceoff
9:00 – makes a nice play in the d zone to break up a play and move the puck up ice himself. Teammate turns the puck over in o zone on a cycle and line is stuck in d zone again.
5:10 – loses faceoff but wingers bail him out. Puck goes the other way anyways.
5:00 - loses faceoff which immediately leads to a scoring chance against
5:00 – Loses faceoff but winger bails him out again
4:50 – takes long shot from outside off the rush which is deflected, then parks in front of the net, is outmuscled to loose puck
4:36 – doesn’t see Versteeg stuck in zone and goes offside
1:30 – misses loose puck on rim in o zone and comes back 3 on 2.
1:03 – dumps the puck out of the d zone which is deflected over the glass

I will continue to watch.

You do that.

As I said, you've done a perplexing job of watching him so far as a whole and seem to have come to a very different conclusion from everyone else.

The first thing you said is that you don't have a Janko / Feaster grudge and from the way you've brought it up and fixated on it, I'd wager you very much do.

He's had two solid games now and I think he's making a case to make the roster for sure.

[Karl Racki]

Originally Posted by heep223

Ok man so I was watching every shift this period and here it is for Janko:

18:50 - giveaway in the o zone on a PP, after a great play by Valimaki, that resulted in a rush the other way
15:05 – caught flat footed with puck on his stick, rush goes the other way
15:00 - Loses faceoff but his winger picks it up, moves up ice
? (next shift) - Loses Faceoff, stuck in his zone for the entire shift, changes
9:10 – loses faceoff
9:00 – makes a nice play in the d zone to break up a play and move the puck up ice himself. Teammate turns the puck over in o zone on a cycle and line is stuck in d zone again.
5:10 – loses faceoff but wingers bail him out. Puck goes the other way anyways.
5:00 - loses faceoff which immediately leads to a scoring chance against
5:00 – Loses faceoff but winger bails him out again
4:50 – takes long shot from outside off the rush which is deflected, then parks in front of the net, is outmuscled to loose puck
4:36 – doesn’t see Versteeg stuck in zone and goes offside
1:30 – misses loose puck on rim in o zone and comes back 3 on 2.
1:03 – dumps the puck out of the d zone which is deflected over the glass

I will continue to watch.

He had his moments, good and bad. At times he can look like Thornton or Getzlaf, at others you hope he ends up as good as Colborne. Sadly, likely to be much closer to latter than former, but doesn't mean he can't be a valuable piece. Think he still just has a lot to learn and needs to get stronger still.

[browna]

Originally Posted by browna

So infuriating. Getting no jump, a regular ordinary meandering irrelevant roster.
Justify a goalscoring rightwinger.

[Itse]

I'd agree that Jankowski had a rough game especially towards the end. Not too worried though, that'll happen to young players. I still think he's ready to be given a shot in the NHL.

I was disappointed in Lazar, wanted to see a harder push from him.

Dube has so far been the real story of the preseason, if he keeps that up he's sure to get a spot. Reminds me of Byron at times, tenacious smaller guy with good wheels.

[Karl Racki]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Survive the next cuts:
Valimaki, Kylington, Andersson, Jankowski, Dube, Glass, Kulak, Gillies. Am I missing anyone? rest seemed like they should be on to the farm.

Agree with this. Think Lomberg is showing enough "Hathaway" to earn a longer look, but not suggesting he is anything other than a bundle of passion and energy.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

But it looks like a continuation from last season. Flames lose a lead or have a bad goal or two scored against them and they call it a night. They just can't get fired up after that.

It's the Brent Sutter / Glen Gulutzan "cycle cycle cycle no risk" offense even when you're down a goal.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

You do that.



As I said, you've done a perplexing job of watching him so far as a whole and seem to have come to a very different conclusion from everyone else.



The first thing you said is that you don't have a Janko / Feaster grudge and from the way you've brought it up and fixated on it, I'd wager you very much do.



He's had two solid games now and I think he's making a case to make the roster for sure.

That's fair - all I've said is that I haven't seen it yet, and backed it up with an albeit very small sample of actual analysis. Janko's having his tires pumped pretty good around here and wondering if it's justified.

And I definitely don't. I have never posted about either Janko or Feaster before.

Always disappointing to lose to Canucks and Oilers, but preseason is no cause to worry. Hopefully they can start going in time for reg season.

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by Toonage

3 or 4 of the 20 guys dressed tonight will be on the roster opening night. Losing sucks but this isn't a cause for alarm.

For the last 5 years or so I have heard this same crap spouted during the pre season. Oh it's just pre season, doesn't matter if we lose these games. Then when the regular season starts the team gets off to slow crappy starts. If you develop a " don't give a crap" attitude during the pre season it is hard to turn the give a crap switch back on when season starts for real.

[PaperBagger'14]

This pre season has hooefully been a lesson in humility. There's bright spots for sure but the whole team game for any one roster hasn't pulled together for a win. Hopefully they get it together in the next week or so.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by heep223

Fantastic hockey analysis and contribution

The quality of my stream was iffy but Jankowski was one of the most noticeable forwards in the entire game to me. I liked what I saw. He's on the team IMO.

Foo wasn't impressive at all.

Bartkowski was bad
Still don't think Valimaki has a realistic chance of making the team.
Still think Kylington needs to add strength and round out his game but he's coming along nicely.

Andersson and Kulak have a decent chance. I think Bartkowski brought Kulak down that game.

Lomberg and Dube noticeable. Lomberg gonna push but there's not much room. Dube's been great but going back to junior is best for his development IMO.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by heep223

That's fair - all I've said is that I haven't seen it yet, and backed it up with an albeit very small sample of actual analysis. Janko's having his tires pumped pretty good around here and wondering if it's justified.

And I definitely don't. I have never posted about either Janko or Feaster before.

Still seems odd to toss that out as a disclaimer and then make no mention of how he's stood out so far (which he has).

If suggesting he's looked good so far and has an inside track to make the roster is "pumping his tires" it's certainly a better take than yours in saying you don't see it but haven't really watched that close.

[FBI]

Got to watch most of the game thanks to the Reddit link.
Janko strong start but had some poor passes in the 3rd. Still made a nice backcheck when he had one giveaway. Definitely overall a great preseason so far.

As others have said Dube has been very impressive, holds the puck well.

Bartkowski was (is) TERRIBLE. Kulak was also brutal.

Gillies was a bit all over the place. I'm not a fan of losing all the preseason games. Hope we can win some.