[News] Ken King: Flames' owners no longer pursuing new arena with City of Calgary

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Again, we are getting into personal anecdotes. I'm saying in my experience, people know Calgary for those things - including its oil.

Yeah, it's all personal anecdotes. All I know is that an episode of MASH mentioned the Calgary Stampede, not the Calgary oil boom.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yet when you go to Google and start typing in Calgary, the first returns are Flames, Stampede, and weather.

It's almost as if most of the people Googling "Calgary..." would likely be locals interested in the local sports teams and local weather.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Would that not include a modern and decently sized arena that could host NHL games and world class concerts?

The conversation at this stage of the game is not about whether we need an arena or not...both the Flames and City (and most of us) agree that we do. The debate really is about the level of corporate welfare that we as tax payers should be willing to give to a private enterprise to have those things.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by rubecube

It's almost as if most of the people Googling "Calgary..." would likely be locals interested in the local sports teams and local weather.

Or that google uses past searches to refine new searches

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yet when you go to Google and start typing in Calgary, the first returns are Flames, Stampede, and weather.

Thanks for playing.



Some people accept mediocrity, others strive for greater things. The Calgary I remember never sat on its laurels.

Great argument

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I've traveled all over Europe. People who know about Calgary generally only know about it as the airport they need to fly into to get to Banff.

I too have travelled all over Europe. I have found most people know Calgary for Olympics, Stampede, mountains, and also the Flames.

A border guard in Slovakia once took a look at my passport (in the 90's) and yelled "Robert Reichel! Calgary Flames!"
He was very excited.

The people that know the Stampede surprise me the most. Didn't think it registered too much in Europe.

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yet when you go to Google and start typing in Calgary, the first returns are Flames, Stampede, and weather.

Thanks for playing.



Some people accept mediocrity, others strive for greater things. The Calgary I remember never sat on its laurels.

I tech savvy person like yourself should know that google returns the thing searched for most by the ip address that is searching. Your filter bubble will of course show sports and weather first, that's obviously what you use it for.

People don't think that google is returning the same search results to everyone regardless of your browsing history or location, do they?

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yeah, it's all personal anecdotes. All I know is that an episode of MASH mentioned the Calgary Stampede, not the Calgary oil boom.

Calgary Stampede =/= Calgary Flames

I don't know why this is being used as an example of your position.

No one is saying anything about the Calgary Stampede.

Also, MASH? come on, its 2017

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Aeneas

I too have travelled all over Europe. I have found most people know Calgary for Olympics, Stampede, mountains, and also the Flames.

A border guard in Slovakia once took a look at my passport (in the 90's) and yelled "Robert Reichel! Calgary Flames!"
He was very excited.

The people that know the Stampede surprise me the most. Didn't think it registered too much in Europe.

Yeah, I think it also depends on when you traveled and what the age of the person you're speaking to is. Most of the younger Australians and Brits I've talked to know the city for the Stampede and access to the mountains. Regardless, it's a pretty irrelevant debate.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yet when you go to Google and start typing in Calgary, the first returns are Flames, Stampede, and weather.

Thanks for playing.



Some people accept mediocrity, others strive for greater things. The Calgary I remember never sat on its laurels.

And the price for that is now apparently $250- $300 million. Not worth it in my opinion.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by New Era

Some people accept mediocrity, others strive for greater things. The Calgary I remember never sat on its laurels.

It's easy to want great things for a city when you're a non-citizen with zero financial consequences.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Cappy

Calgary Stampede =/= Calgary Flames

I don't know why this is being used as an example of your position.

No one is saying anything about the Calgary Stampede.

Also, MASH? come on, its 2017

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Table 5

It's easy to want great things for a city when you're a non-citizen with zero financial consequences.

Look at you, you laurel sitter.

[Flash Walken]

You're telling me people don't want to publicly subsidize Horsecock?

#### is literally the first result Google gives me after I type in 'Horse'. The FIRST result.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by rubecube

It's almost as if most of the people Googling "Calgary..." would likely be locals interested in the local sports teams and local weather.

Except I'm googling from the United States, on an American IP, coming from a large University with a shared IP space. Our machines revert back to a clean build on logout, so it isn't stored credentials or Google analytics coming into play. This is a fresh Google search. So when people want to learn about Calgary, from a remote location, and they are using Google, those are the first things that come up. The very first. If it makes you feel any better, the first returns for Edmonton are Oilers, weather and Journal. They don't even have anything as substantial as the Stampede to fallback on.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

You're telling me people don't want to publicly subsidize Horsecock?

#### is literally the first result Google gives me after I type in 'Horse'. The FIRST result.

Well now we know Flash's porn habits.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by rubecube

What? You don't think migrants from developing nations and refugees fleeing war torn countries care about how many Garth Brooks shows they'll get to see in their new home? Racist.

Aaaaaand the shark has been jumped.

Wow.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by New Era

Except I'm googling from the United States, on an American IP, coming from a large University with a shared IP space. Our machines revert back to a clean build on logout, so it isn't stored credentials or Google analytics coming into play. This is a fresh Google search. So when people want to learn about Calgary, from a remote location, and they are using Google, those are the first things that come up. The very first. If it makes you feel any better, the first returns for Edmonton are Oilers, weather and Journal. They don't even have anything as substantial as the Stampede to fallback on.

It doesn't matter. The argument is not convincing.

[Aeneas]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yeah, I think it also depends on when you traveled and what the age of the person you're speaking to is. Most of the younger Australians and Brits I've talked to know the city for the Stampede and access to the mountains. Regardless, it's a pretty irrelevant debate.

You calling me old? Well, you are right.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by New Era

Except I'm googling from the United States, on an American IP, coming from a large University with a shared IP space. Our machines revert back to a clean build on logout, so it isn't stored credentials or Google analytics coming into play. This is a fresh Google search. So when people want to learn about Calgary, from a remote location, and they are using Google, those are the first things that come up. The very first. If it makes you feel any better, the first returns for Edmonton are Oilers, weather and Journal. They don't even have anything as substantial as the Stampede to fallback on.

Okay but I don't think that actually disproves my point. Which people are most likely to be googling the city from a remote location, VPN, etc.? It's most likely going to be locals and expats.