2017 Hurricane Season

[Lanny_McDonald]

Talked with the in-laws this morning and it sounds like Florida caught a break. Not much damage just north of Tampa. What could have been disastrous, based on the size of the storm, turned into a fairly benign event. I like the way the Tampa mayor put it. They were looking to get punched right in the face, and ended up having to deal with glancing blow.

[Acey]

- Irma's 75 hours as a cat 5 is the most ever for an Atlantic hurricane
- Irma's 37 hours with sustained winds of 185+ mph is the most ever for any storm in the history of the world

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Acey

- Irma's 75 hours as a cat 5 is the most ever for an Atlantic hurricane
- Irma's 37 hours with sustained winds of 185+ mph is the most ever for any storm in the history of the world

How could they ever possibly know that?

[Acey]

Originally Posted by transplant99

How could they ever possibly know that?

Of course they don't, but "history of the world" sounds way cooler than "in recorded history".

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Acey

Of course they don't, but "history of the world" sounds way cooler than "in recorded history".

Roger that!

[MRCboicgy]

"It went on longer and was more powerful than the big red storm on Jupiter!" is the logical next step

[Lanny_McDonald]

The only thing more powerful than Hurricane Irma is Connor McDavid.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by New Era

The only thing more powerful than Hurricane Irma is Connor McDavid.

God please tell me there's not a Hurricane McDavid "painting" out there.

[driveway]

Typhoon Talim probably rolling through Taipei tommorrow and into Thursday. The track has been trending steadily northwards though, so it may miss the island completely. Some uncertainty on if school/work will be cancelled. I expect that it will be, but we'll see.

Spoiler!

[Snuffleupagus]

Virgin islands before and after Irma

All vegetation stripped.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by driveway

Typhoon Talim probably rolling through Taipei tommorrow and into Thursday. The track has been trending steadily northwards though, so it may miss the island completely. Some uncertainty on if school/work will be cancelled. I expect that it will be, but we'll see.

Spoiler!

Is that graphic for real, or is Talim about to sex the mainland?

[Acey]

Two storms back to back both into the top 4 of most costly ever.

1. Katrina - $108B
2. Sandy - $75B
3. Harvey - $70B
4. Irma - $62B
5. Ike - $37.2B

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Acey

Two storms back to back both into the top 4 of most costly ever.

1. Katrina - $108B
2. Sandy - $75B
3. Harvey - $70B
4. Irma - $62B
5. Ike - $37.2B

Precedent-setter after precedent-setter after precedent-setter. But hey, climate change clearly isn't happening.

Made a video talking about how this hurricane season relates to the issue of climate change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Zgj1Qz9Kw

[Acey]

Irma/Harvey totals are not in yet but each could exceed $100B. Accounting for inflation would bump Ike and bring in Andrew to #5 at over $40B.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Precedent-setter after precedent-setter after precedent-setter. But hey, climate change clearly isn't happening.

The figures aren't adjusted for inflation, or the growth of population in coastal areas, increased wealth and property values. NOAA and the National Hurricane Center does a periodic review of the damage of the most devastating hurricanes, including trying to determine the damage as equivalently as possible.



http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/nws-nhc-6.pdf (page 11).

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by accord1999

The figures aren't adjusted for inflation, or the growth of population in coastal areas, increased wealth and property values. NOAA and the National Hurricane Center does a periodic review of the damage of the most devastating hurricanes, including trying to determine the damage as equivalently as possible.

It also doesn't take into account the advancement in building codes, infrastructure, technology, etc to make these areas more robust and resistant to storms as compared to decades past.

That study you cited was published in 2011 and doesn't take into account storms since then.

Granted, damage dollars is a lousy way of gauging the strength of storms anyhow.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Granted, damage dollars is a lousy way of gauging the strength of storms anyhow.

Agreed, how many people have heard Mitch mentioned in any recent hurricane discussion? It killed nearly 20,000 people less than 20 years ago.

Originally Posted by accord1999

The figures aren't adjusted for inflation, or the growth of population in coastal areas, increased wealth and property values. NOAA and the National Hurricane Center does a periodic review of the damage of the most devastating hurricanes, including trying to determine the damage as equivalently as possible.

Sandy, Irma, and Harvey would clearly rank very highly on the list. The point remains that a couple of very recent storms skew high on the list.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Acey

Sandy, Irma, and Harvey would clearly rank very highly on the list. The point remains that a couple of very recent storms skew high on the list.

Sure, I would agree with that. I just disagree that they're precedent setters as compared to the most devastating hurricanes to have hit the US over the last 120 years.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

It also doesn't take into account the advancement in building codes, infrastructure, technology, etc to make these areas more robust and resistant to storms as compared to decades past.

That study you cited was published in 2011 and doesn't take into account storms since then.

Granted, damage dollars is a lousy way of gauging the strength of storms anyhow.

Not only things like infrastructure, but just weather forecasting and communication. For those storms back in the early 1900's most people would have had no idea something so big and dangerous was about to hit. They wouldn't have had the same opportunities to prepare or escape.

[missdpuck]

Just beginning to get decent cell reception.

I still can't get over the uprooted trees down in Delray. Banyans/ficus aren't a surprise, but live oaks, royal palms and seagrapes up by the roots are signs of some severe winds.


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