The plural of anecdote is not 'data', and I would wager you are full of crap, Cameron. If you looked at all posts in those threads rather than cherry picking, you'd find a vast majority referring to them as Redford or Notley.
The plural of anecdote is not 'data', and I would wager you are full of crap, Cameron. If you looked at all posts in those threads rather than cherry picking, you'd find a vast majority referring to them as Redford or Notley.
I didn't say nobody referred to them as Redford or Notley. Some people do obviously. I said that they are referred to by their first name more than male politicians. Honestly, how many posts do you see referring to Stephen or Jason or Naheed and so on?
My search term was Rachel NOT Notley. Wasn't difficult to find hits.
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If there isn't a sexist element at play, why is Farrell the only councilor who is referred to by her first name? I never see comments about Naheed or Sean or Jim or Joe or Ray?
I've brought it up before but you often see female politicians reduced to their first name (Rachel, Alison, Kristy, etc.) but almost never men. Justin is one, but that's because his detractors want to portray him as a little boy in a man's world.
How about Ralph? Bernie? I'd bet that most politicians would love to be on a first-name basis with their constituents.
Generally, when typing, I will usually use the name that is more distinctive and easier to type. In most cases, that's the person's last name. In a few cases, like Druh, the first name is more distinctive (and you don't have to remember how many Rs and Ls are in Farrell).
No one is going to say, "Did you hear that idiotic thing Sean said?" because they'd have to narrow it down to which of the 14 different people named Sean you know. Instead, you say, "Did you hear that idiotic thing Chu said?" and there's no confusion.
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I didn't say nobody referred to them as Redford or Notley. Some people do obviously. I said that they are referred to by their first name more than male politicians. Honestly, how many posts do you see referring to Stephen or Jason or Naheed and so on?
My search term was Rachel NOT Notley. Wasn't difficult to find hits.
And when I said Notley is Notley on these boards I didn't mean she is never called Rachel. But if you look at the post count there and assuming you plucked the first 4 you have 4/2500 posts in the thread referring to her as Rachel.
If you wanted to move this beyond annecdote you would need to total up all of the Rachel's and and all of the Notelys and Rachel Notleys and compare that against the ration of Justin's to Trudeaus.
You also didn't bother to post their first one where a user is giving anouther user crap for calling her Auntie Rachel.
No, you were making a rather significant allegation against a wider group as a means of virtue signalling, and have failed to adequately support the allegation you were made. Now you're trying to back peddle and soften your original stance.
I like how no one can ever get upset about anything without it being labelled "virtue signalling" anymore. That phrase has about as much cache left as SJW or ####.
I like how no one can ever get upset about anything without it being labelled "virtue signalling" anymore. That phrase has about as much cache left as SJW or ####.
It is entirely anecdotal (I'm not about to do a comprehensive study) but I certainly notice more people using the first names of female politicians moreso than the first names of male politicians (I mentioned Trudeau in my initial post. In my opinion people use Justin or Junior to belittle him, to make him seem like a lightweight; Ralph portrayed himself as a man of the people and wanted to be seen that way)
Do we see Mulcair referred to as Tom? Or Scheer as Andrew? Or Kenney as Jason? and so on. I'm not aware of it. Someone brought up the example of Sean Chu, that referring to him as Sean wouldn't make sense because we wouldn't know who was being talked about, but even then, he has his own dedicated thread so there would be no question of who's being talked about, yet nobody calls him Sean in there. The other argument is that the male names are commonplace names, but then Rachel or Alison aren't rare either.
Like I said, I think there's a hint of sexism to it. Evidently others disagree. Anyone care to post as to why they use female politicians' first names? I'd genuinely be interested to know.
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In general it is used to belittle them. The same way it is used to belittle Justin. You aren't giving them the respect of an adult. Or it is used as a reverential nick name to be more personal Ralph, Hillary Bernie
I disagree that it is more prevelant amoungst female politicians though. I don't recall anyone ever using Danielle or Alison outside of trying to insult them. Kim Campbell was never Kim.
Funny enough in searching for Alison NOT Redford and found this post
The Government of Canada uses two SCC estimates. The 'central' estimate is the average of three prominent climate cost models (DICE the most famous).. They also use the '95th percentile' estimate which has higher weighting to the fat tail type catastrophic risks.
Central estimate is $40 per tonne, 95th is $165 per tonne.
Like I said, I think there's a hint of sexism to it. Evidently others disagree. Anyone care to post as to why they use female politicians' first names? I'd genuinely be interested to know.
There is no way most of the criticism she gets is because she is a women. Some and perhaps the intensity and type but she earns her criticism by becoming the face of issues.
The two most polarizing people on Council are Nenshi and Farrel and thus garner the most criticism. She is also willing to give a contrarian quote on any issue.
Compare her to Urqhart. Why doesn't Urqhart receive death threats?
She is polarizing so she gets criticized - not necessarily because she is a woman. But when people do attack her, often anonymously by phone, by email or through social media, it has has been disturbingly sexist - and she's said so. I have seen it first hand. Rick Bell called her "Druh the Shrew" for years and incited all sorts of fanatical, hateful, sexist vitriol toward her. It was especially bad 4-6 years ago around the time the Peace Brodge was built.
That's not a shield against criticism, it's just stating the reality of what she faces. She soldiers on, when many in her position would probably just quit.
With the Mayor, there is a lot of decidedly homophobic remarks made toward him based on an assumption in addition to the racist and xenophobic stuff.
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She is polarizing so she gets criticized - not necessarily because she is a woman. But when people do attack her, often anonymously by phone, by email or through social media, it has has been disturbingly sexist - and she's said so. I have seen it first hand. Rick Bell called her "Druh the Shrew" for years and incited all sorts of fanatical, hateful, sexist vitriol toward her. It was especially bad 4-6 years ago around the time the Peace Brodge was built.
That's not a shield against criticism, it's just stating the reality of what she faces. She soldiers on, when many in her position would probably just quit.
With the Mayor, there is a lot of decidedly homophobic remarks made toward him based on an assumption in addition to the racist and xenophobic stuff.
The fact that this discussion about threats towards our elected officials even exists makes me shake my head. I just wish that people would grow up
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On the other hand, the clowns behind Terringo Investments appear to be doubling down on their SLAPP suit against Farrell. Metro says today that they filed a second lawsuit, but I suspect this is slow and sloppy journalism, and instead related to motions made public three weeks ago in the original suit.
On the other hand, the clowns behind Terringo Investments appear to be doubling down on their SLAPP suit against Farrell. Metro says today that they filed a second lawsuit, but I suspect this is slow and sloppy journalism, and instead related to motions made public three weeks ago in the original suit.
No, I believe it actually is a second lawsuit...about exactly the same thing.
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