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Old 08-23-2017, 04:12 PM   #41
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What do you guys think, can it happen? What needs to happen for this team to be a 100 point team?
50 wins
45 wins and ten ties
40 wins and 20 ties
60 ties and 20 wins

There are a lot of ways to get to 100 points, but I think I have made my point
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:18 PM   #42
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This team to me is already a 100 point team even before the Hamonic and Smith acquisitions. That disastrous first month was an adjustment period that to me, is not indicative of the potential that this team has. This was a 103 point pace team once they figured out the system and the first pair defense and 3M line came together.

Adding Hamonic and Smith could easily improve upon those numbers. Especially if the officials decide to not call every penalty possible now that Dennis Wideman is off the team.
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:21 PM   #43
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This team to me is already a 100 point team even before the Hamonic and Smith acquisitions. That disastrous first month was an adjustment period that to me, is not indicative of the potential that this team has. This was a 103 point pace team once they figured out the system and the first pair defense and 3M line came together.

Adding Hamonic and Smith could easily improve upon those numbers. Especially if the officials decide to not call every penalty possible now that Dennis Wideman is off the team.
You can say the first month was an adjustment period, but I feel the odds of winning 10 in a row again are low. The flames fished about where they deserved to last season in my eyes. However with the new additions, I think this is a 100 point team.
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:28 PM   #44
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If they win 60% of their games, plus a few loser points here and there they will be above 100 points. Simple math.
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:37 PM   #45
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The big question around whether a 100 point season is likely is our OT win rate. We have dominated 3 on 3 OT. Back in the 4/4 shoot out process the loser points were effectively random. There was no statistical evidence that a team was good at the shootout. With 3 on 3 the data is still not conclusive on whether it is random or not. I think the evidence is pretty strong that the flames are a good 3/3 team and will not regress to the mean. If 3/3 is random like shoot outs they will.

So the key to hitting 100 points is to continue their domination of overtime. That combined with Vegas being added makes it pretty easy
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the key to hitting 100 points this year will be improving the offense without impacting the defense.

THe flames need to score more goals and keep the goals against roughly the same. Can't be a top 15 team without top 10 offense of top 5 defense IMO.
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:50 PM   #47
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Obviously wouldn't happen, but just for perspective... they play LVK, ARI, VAN and COL a total of 18 times.

If they were to run the table against those 4 teams, they would only need to be .500 against the rest of the league.

There are going to be a fair number of relatively easy points up for grabs this year and making the playoffs may well require something in the 96-98 point range.
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:08 PM   #48
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What is our 3 on 3 record since it was introduced compared to the rest of the league? Are we #1?
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Old 08-23-2017, 05:18 PM   #49
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That's a stretch isn't it?

If the site had one Edmonton topic and one Flames topic they wouldn't be close. The one Edmonton topic generally gets every Oiler issue in a calendar year. Every Calgary topic tumbles off the main page when something else comes up.
Moreover, prior to having the E=NG threads, a lot more of that stuff spilled over into other threads. A lot of people have asked why we allowed the thread to continue, and my answer would be
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2. Because it helps confine the mud slinging to a single thread
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50 wins
45 wins and ten ties
40 wins and 20 ties
60 ties and 20 wins

There are a lot of ways to get to 100 points, but I think I have made my point
Could you imagine going say, 20-2-60 to make 100 points? People would go insane.

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Old 08-23-2017, 05:57 PM   #52
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What is our 3 on 3 record since it was introduced compared to the rest of the league? Are we #1?
Here are the 5 winningest teams at 3 on 3 OT, sorted by win%:
LA 24-7 = 0.77
CGY 18-6 = 0.75
WSH 15-9 = 0.63
PHI 17-11 = 0.61
CHI 19-15 = 0.56
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What is our 3 on 3 record since it was introduced compared to the rest of the league? Are we #1?
Only LA and Chicago have won more (24 & 19 respectively) than the Flames (18) during 3-on-3 OT. No one has lost fewer than the Flames (6 -- tied with Colorado, one better than LA).

As a percentage, LA's 24-7 (77.4%) record is better than Calgary's 18-6 (75%). This ignores games that eventually went to a shootout.


If you take into account shootout games, LA and Calgary are the only teams who have won more than half their OT games during 3-on-3.

No team has a better combined OT and shootout record than the Flames since 3-on-3 OT was introduced (winning 68.57% of all games that have gone to OT).
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The Flames are Kings are also 1-1 against each other in 3 on 3 OT.
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One of my favourite examples of how we dominate 3 on 3

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If the Flames are no good, I think it'll be for one of the two following reasons:
1. Mike Smith and Eddie Lack fail
2. Too many injuries

Neither of these are overly likely. So I think the Flames will get 100 points and make the playoffs.
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Johnny exhibited so much quickness and skill - it was crazy!
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That wasn't one of the loudest I've heard the dome in the regular season during that OT and after the goal. It was incredible.
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68+23+13=104
He's right.
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